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What makes social media social is not a user profile and feed. It is the recognition of many types of different relationships between people and the solution fo
by ivan_gammel 3y ago
What makes social media social is not a user profile and feed. It is the recognition of many types of different relationships between people and the solution for interaction within them. There are friends, family, colleagues at work, parents of other children who are friends with your kid etc etc. You don’t just post updates for each of those audiences, you talk to them, plan shared activities and so on. It is not something you can build with RSS/vCard.
- SamWhited 3y agoAll of that sounds exactly like what RSS/vCard were built for; what part couldn't be done? Comments and replies could be integrated easily enough. You could do this with more RSS, but I've always wanted to build something like this where replies were via emailing a public inbox (from which an RSS feed is generated).
- ivan_gammel 3y ago>All of that sounds exactly like what RSS/vCard were built for; Where exactly in those specs do you see possibility to say „A is friend of B“?
- uallo 3y agoMaybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOAF ?
- ivan_gammel 3y agoIt is a data format, not a protocol. You cannot send a friend request with it. Besides, FOAF is terribly designed. You cannot take seriously something that has aimChatID and icqChatID in it.
- 6510 3y agoThe design is... well it isn't... no excuse but it's suppose to be hidden behind some UI ofc. Why do I need it anyway? In case I forget who is my mum? If I ask you for an organized list of your friends, coworkers, relatives etc along with contact details. Would you be likely to share it without asking why? Sounds like something that should be illegal. If mum has a public website with her short stories, reading list and her crafts on it one should write a blog post about it. You could also put the vCards in an RSS feed but it wouldn't be as interesting. I read the topic more like Rum as an alternative for Whiskey
- ivan_gammel 3y agoI don’t understand your comment. Do you ask me why do you need FOAF? I have no idea who would need it. This format without a protocol is useless. Or do you mean, why would you need a protocol? I don’t know your use cases either, but many people have them, preferring to keep certain interactions and content from public eye. A simple website wouldn’t work. Access management and context-specific permissions are needed. A way to request them too. This topic is more like tomato paste as an alternative for curry chicken with jasmine rice. You can eat it, but the real meal has many more ingredients.
- 6510 3y agoSounds about right. Part of the access management is doable without adding ingredients. You can add more than one feed. Each public scope can have its own feed. You can have as many kinds of tomato paste as you like. Maybe you could define the curry, the chicken and the rice more specifically so that we can ponder the availability of something like those ingredients?
- bastawhiz 3y agoI'm not interested in explaining to my mom how she can share the recipes she finds to her friends using XML. The vast majority of folks don't give a flip about the protocol, they just want to talk to people.
- 6510 3y agoDifferent people use it differently. Each social platform has it's own unique features that one can continue to use along with anything else. How do you play games on RSS/vCard? How buy and sell things? How advertise on it?
- ivan_gammel 3y agoUnique features are the least interesting thing in this context. RSS/vCard doesn’t offer the basics that every social platform has.
- 6510 3y agoI had to look up what social media and social networking are. You think of it more from the collaborative side while the topic tends more towards classical rollodex networking and digital media.
- ivan_gammel 3y agoWell, that’s why they are called social - because every single of them has a social graph. This is the definition.