> Is it really that hard to just not give kids these devices or maybe you know… spend quality human time with them? Sadly yes. I do not have kids, but a lot of

> Is it really that hard to just not give kids these devices or maybe you know… spend quality human time with them? Sadly yes. I do not have kids, but a lot of my friends do. Beside the peace of mind of having basically a tracking device wih your kids at any time, not having a phone in theses day and age can be dramatic for some kids social life. In term of spending quality time, yes in a perfect world that would be ideal... but life is life. Between works, house chores and simply life... Some parent just don't have the energy to give their kids full attention at every time of the day. > Seems like a parenting fail to me. Maybe. But parents are human and human fail. A good society take into account the limits of being a human and design rules around those limits.