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Sure, let’s put the fox in charge of defending the hen house. He’s an expert on chickens and I’m sure he’s changed his ways!

cbsmith 3y ago
We hire black hat hackers to help with computer security.
- justinclift 3y ago
  Why would you do that?
  - cbsmith 3y ago
    Because it's effective.
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
      It sounds like you're hiring penetration testers. Why do you call them "black hat"?
      - p1esk 3y ago
        How do you know the penetration testers you hired are not black hat hackers?
        doktrin 3y ago
        > How do you know the penetration testers you hired are not black hat hackers? Is the implication that all pentesters are black hats until axiomatically proven otherwise? High bar.
      - fullspectrumdev 3y ago
        A lot of the better pentesters/security consultants have “colourful” backgrounds.
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jart 3y ago
Frank Abagnale is a good example https://youtu.be/vsMydMDi3rI https://youtu.be/vsMydMDi3rI
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- vlovich123 3y ago
  A fraudster who by all accounts continued fraud by making up a life story filled with largely fictional details (including that he worked with the FBI)? Some people are like George Santos and exaggerate constantly in addition to constructing wholesale false stories about themselves. It’s fascinating how easy it is to fall prey to a fraudster when they claim they’ve gone legit. You’re probably better off believing they’re still a fraudster. https://louisianavoice.com/2021/04/26/new-book-further-debunks-myth-of-scam-artist-frank-abagnale-jr-of-catch-me-if-you-can-book-movie/ https://louisianavoice.com/2021/04/26/new-book-further-debun... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale#Relationship_with_the_Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale#Relationship_wi...
  - jart 3y ago
    That Wikipedia section makes it sound like his whole life story is just an elaborate work of fiction. I don't think that counts as fraud. It's more like santa claus and the deception fits in with his story. Is he doing any actual damage other than annoying the FBI?
    - vlovich123 3y ago
      Fraud /frôd/ noun. wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain. I would say that lying about your life story to write a successful book & then get a movie made about that book by the world’s most preeminent directory would count as a wrongful deception intended to result in financial or personal gain. But that’s just me. His whole Wikipedia page is a list of constant fraud and larceny. Some persecuted, probably most not. As for how much damage he’s causing these days I don’t know, but he clearly has in the past. Some examples: > in March 1965, Abagnale identified himself as a Scarsdale, New York, police officer and entered the apartment of a Mount Vernon, New York, resident claiming that he was investigating her teenaged daughter. > After being released into the custody of his father to face the stolen-car charges, 17-year-old Abagnale decided to impersonate a pilot.
giuseppe_petri 3y ago
"An old poacher makes the best gamekeeper."

cbsmith 3y ago

We hire black hat hackers to help with computer security.

justinclift 3y ago
Why would you do that?
- cbsmith 3y ago
  Because it's effective.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
    It sounds like you're hiring penetration testers. Why do you call them "black hat"?
    - p1esk 3y ago
      How do you know the penetration testers you hired are not black hat hackers?
      - doktrin 3y ago
        > How do you know the penetration testers you hired are not black hat hackers? Is the implication that all pentesters are black hats until axiomatically proven otherwise? High bar.
    - fullspectrumdev 3y ago
      A lot of the better pentesters/security consultants have “colourful” backgrounds.
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jart 3y ago

Frank Abagnale is a good example https://youtu.be/vsMydMDi3rI https://youtu.be/vsMydMDi3rI

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vlovich123 3y ago
A fraudster who by all accounts continued fraud by making up a life story filled with largely fictional details (including that he worked with the FBI)? Some people are like George Santos and exaggerate constantly in addition to constructing wholesale false stories about themselves. It’s fascinating how easy it is to fall prey to a fraudster when they claim they’ve gone legit. You’re probably better off believing they’re still a fraudster. https://louisianavoice.com/2021/04/26/new-book-further-debunks-myth-of-scam-artist-frank-abagnale-jr-of-catch-me-if-you-can-book-movie/ https://louisianavoice.com/2021/04/26/new-book-further-debun... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale#Relationship_with_the_Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale#Relationship_wi...
- jart 3y ago
  That Wikipedia section makes it sound like his whole life story is just an elaborate work of fiction. I don't think that counts as fraud. It's more like santa claus and the deception fits in with his story. Is he doing any actual damage other than annoying the FBI?
  - vlovich123 3y ago
    Fraud /frôd/ noun. wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain. I would say that lying about your life story to write a successful book & then get a movie made about that book by the world’s most preeminent directory would count as a wrongful deception intended to result in financial or personal gain. But that’s just me. His whole Wikipedia page is a list of constant fraud and larceny. Some persecuted, probably most not. As for how much damage he’s causing these days I don’t know, but he clearly has in the past. Some examples: > in March 1965, Abagnale identified himself as a Scarsdale, New York, police officer and entered the apartment of a Mount Vernon, New York, resident claiming that he was investigating her teenaged daughter. > After being released into the custody of his father to face the stolen-car charges, 17-year-old Abagnale decided to impersonate a pilot.

giuseppe_petri 3y ago

"An old poacher makes the best gamekeeper."