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I used to live above a Japanese bar in the centre of Melbourne, Australia. It was a busy street in a busy part of town. (Robot, for the locals.) Of course this

I used to live above a Japanese bar in the centre of Melbourne, Australia. It was a busy street in a busy part of town. (Robot, for the locals.) Of course this place was sold, both to renters and buyers, as ‘hip’, it was ‘the inner-city lifestyle’, it was ‘everything on your doorstep’. And yet the neighbours. My god what cretins. Noise! On a weekend! They couldn’t bear it. I think it should be flat-out forbidden to complain about noise if the thing you’re complaining about existed when you arrived.

wolverine876 3y ago
What did they say about it, if you asked them? You never know: Maybe the bar owner has been a jerk to them, maybe it could be quieter. Also, a transient resident can have a much different perspective than someone who is there permanently.
nox101 3y ago
I wonder if landlords should be required to disclose noise sources. As a renter there's no easy way for you to know that every Friday night the bar a block away has music so loud you can hear it in your apartment til 2am or that a band practices at the school down the street etc... You generally have about 5 minutes too look around a apartment and a few more to look around the neighborhood and then sign a contract for $60k not knowing the place will be unacceptable once you actually spend a week there. maybe this is only a problem in expensive cities like SF/NYC/LA where when you find a place you have to take it immediately nor lose it to the line of people ready to rent
- doctor_eval 3y ago
  To be fair to the GP, that part of Melbourne is very, very busy. But Melbourne is very expensive and you do have to compete with other renters. It’s a nightmare to find a good spot especially if you’re in a hurry. I think another aspect is that to someone who lives in the area - like a real estate agent - it’s obvious that it would be noisy at night. Why else would you want live there? There are multiple bars in every laneway. Many of them are open until the wee hours. So while I agree with the sentiment I think it’s difficult in practice.
- lukan 3y ago
  "maybe this is only a problem in expensive cities like SF/NYC/LA where when you find a place you have to take it immediately nor lose it to the line of people ready to rent" This. Everywhere else people usually can and do take the time to explore the area of the potential new home. "I wonder if landlords should be required to disclose noise sources." Maybe, but maybe they also don't know about those school band practices, so how to enforce it, but in general there are noise maps.
doctor_eval 3y ago
Robot is a great bar! I used to work in Flinders Lane, it’s the best part of Melbourne. Still grab lunch from Yen Sushi Noodles in Centre Place when I visit. But yeah it would be noisy. Great spot to live for a while if you’re young. A lot of my favourite places didn’t make it post Covid tho.
- jen729w 3y ago
  Ha! I bet I've seen you in there. Yeah we were in our 30s, absolutely loved it. This was from 2007-2010~ish. I can't believe Robot survived. Yoshi's done well there.

wolverine876 3y ago

What did they say about it, if you asked them? You never know: Maybe the bar owner has been a jerk to them, maybe it could be quieter. Also, a transient resident can have a much different perspective than someone who is there permanently.

nox101 3y ago

I wonder if landlords should be required to disclose noise sources. As a renter there's no easy way for you to know that every Friday night the bar a block away has music so loud you can hear it in your apartment til 2am or that a band practices at the school down the street etc... You generally have about 5 minutes too look around a apartment and a few more to look around the neighborhood and then sign a contract for $60k not knowing the place will be unacceptable once you actually spend a week there. maybe this is only a problem in expensive cities like SF/NYC/LA where when you find a place you have to take it immediately nor lose it to the line of people ready to rent

doctor_eval 3y ago
To be fair to the GP, that part of Melbourne is very, very busy. But Melbourne is very expensive and you do have to compete with other renters. It’s a nightmare to find a good spot especially if you’re in a hurry. I think another aspect is that to someone who lives in the area - like a real estate agent - it’s obvious that it would be noisy at night. Why else would you want live there? There are multiple bars in every laneway. Many of them are open until the wee hours. So while I agree with the sentiment I think it’s difficult in practice.
lukan 3y ago
"maybe this is only a problem in expensive cities like SF/NYC/LA where when you find a place you have to take it immediately nor lose it to the line of people ready to rent" This. Everywhere else people usually can and do take the time to explore the area of the potential new home. "I wonder if landlords should be required to disclose noise sources." Maybe, but maybe they also don't know about those school band practices, so how to enforce it, but in general there are noise maps.

doctor_eval 3y ago

Robot is a great bar! I used to work in Flinders Lane, it’s the best part of Melbourne. Still grab lunch from Yen Sushi Noodles in Centre Place when I visit. But yeah it would be noisy. Great spot to live for a while if you’re young. A lot of my favourite places didn’t make it post Covid tho.

jen729w 3y ago
Ha! I bet I've seen you in there. Yeah we were in our 30s, absolutely loved it. This was from 2007-2010~ish. I can't believe Robot survived. Yoshi's done well there.