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Put the baseball bat down bro. You are describing something I do a lot, I play with old computers and try to put them to use. Pervasive cryptography has changed
by rusk 3y ago
Put the baseball bat down bro. You are describing something I do a lot, I play with old computers and try to put them to use. Pervasive cryptography has changed everything even stuff that’s ten years old has issues with certificates and deprecated versions. In any modern setting this is a serious handicap.
tl;dr our hardware requirements would be vastly slashed if we didn’t have an expectation of TLS everywhere.
- pjmlp 3y agoBro explain the HN audience how using AmigaWriter or PageStream, alongside a printer pluged via the Amiga printer port, requires TLS.
- rusk 3y agoWell you’re really narrowing down the usescases to suit an argument we really don’t even need to have this is boring
- pjmlp 3y agoYou are free to explain the same to the other use cases I mentioned on my first comment, and I am still curious. In case you go for email, I didn't mention the communication protocol, or possible existence of a gateway.
- kjs3 3y agoI though it was obvious: "you don't do what I do, exactly like I do it, therefore you are wrong". There's a lot of that type running around.
- anthk 3y agoAmiSSL exists. Gemini browsers for Amiga too.
- pjmlp 3y agoI know, I didn't specify Web browsing on purpose, because some "I feel smart" would exactly react as they did. Turns out there is still a lot of uses a computer can serve without being plugged into the Internet.
- rusk 3y agoYeah except people don’t use computers like that any more. Sorry if that makes you feel “wrankled“
- anthk 3y agoThat's true. When I didn't have internet at home in early 00's I did far more tasks than today. The thing is today, except for Debian (DVD/BD sets/ISO's), Hyperbola (offline mirroring, the repos are small) and few systems more, working offline seems odd as lots of things depend on fetching software via repos, or documentation, where you can't get that any more for lots of programming languages or software such as MS Office. But, well, at least systems like 9front have static binaries, so they are easily shareable, and all the documentation it's offline. And, universally, there's mbsync/msmtp for email, and news spooling via usenet. Sometimes I'd love an NNTP->Usenet bridge, so everything could be done offline from nearly any modern OS since the 90's, and just connect once to answer to all threads.
- icedchai 3y agoHis point seemed pretty simple to me. If you're running local apps, not going on the Internet, you don't need TLS. Nobody expects a 30+ year old retro system to run a modern browser.