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Not culturally prepared for putting newcomers into low wage-low status jobs? West Side Story was 1961: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhSKk-cvblc https://www.

Not culturally prepared for putting newcomers into low wage-low status jobs? West Side Story was 1961: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhSKk-cvblc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhSKk-cvblc Here you are free and you have pride Long as you stay on your own side Free to be anything you choose Free to wait tables and shine shoes compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment#%22No_Irish_need_apply%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment#%22No_Iri...

bell-cot 3y ago
The U.S. of 1961 had millions of low-education/low-wage jobs. And loads of cheap housing. And both of those were seen as growth sectors. Vs. the U.S. of 2024? Far closer to "None of the above".
- MattGaiser 3y ago
  US continues to have lots of both, except that the major cities have grown to the point that some areas are not cheap. But there is a lot more to the USA than New York and San Francisco. Consider places like Madison. Unemployment is 2%, and houses are around 300-400K. Or Fargo, unemployment of 2.4% and houses around 250K.
- 082349872349872 3y ago
  It's been a long time since I've been in the Old Country. I'd believe live-in help is long gone, but have you all truly lost all the car washes, restaurant kitchens (and waitstaff), gardening and janitorial services, day labour walls, valet parking, etc.? (as to cheap housing, note that the 1961 lyrics include "12 in a room in America")
  - bell-cot 3y ago
    > Have you truly lost all... Literally, no. But... Massive losses of higher-paying/higher-skill jobs, especially in factories, are pushing very large number of citizens into low-pay/low-skill/insecure jobs. They often react badly to the prospect of (their PoV) yet more people who the boss could replace them with at any moment. Current accepted wisdom, for many manual jobs, is that automation/robots/AI will replace most of the human workers in the next decade-ish. For instance - the hot new trend in car washes is extreme automation - cutting the labor force by 10X or more. Gentrification puts NIMBY's - who tend to be very poverty-intolerant - either in, or close to, many of the places where migrants might live "at unintended high densities".

bell-cot 3y ago

The U.S. of 1961 had millions of low-education/low-wage jobs. And loads of cheap housing. And both of those were seen as growth sectors. Vs. the U.S. of 2024? Far closer to "None of the above".

MattGaiser 3y ago
US continues to have lots of both, except that the major cities have grown to the point that some areas are not cheap. But there is a lot more to the USA than New York and San Francisco. Consider places like Madison. Unemployment is 2%, and houses are around 300-400K. Or Fargo, unemployment of 2.4% and houses around 250K.
082349872349872 3y ago
It's been a long time since I've been in the Old Country. I'd believe live-in help is long gone, but have you all truly lost all the car washes, restaurant kitchens (and waitstaff), gardening and janitorial services, day labour walls, valet parking, etc.? (as to cheap housing, note that the 1961 lyrics include "12 in a room in America")
- bell-cot 3y ago
  > Have you truly lost all... Literally, no. But... Massive losses of higher-paying/higher-skill jobs, especially in factories, are pushing very large number of citizens into low-pay/low-skill/insecure jobs. They often react badly to the prospect of (their PoV) yet more people who the boss could replace them with at any moment. Current accepted wisdom, for many manual jobs, is that automation/robots/AI will replace most of the human workers in the next decade-ish. For instance - the hot new trend in car washes is extreme automation - cutting the labor force by 10X or more. Gentrification puts NIMBY's - who tend to be very poverty-intolerant - either in, or close to, many of the places where migrants might live "at unintended high densities".