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Some weeks ago I switched on my old Falcon030 for the first time since 1997. The operating system feels surprisingly modern and fast. If it weren't for the low

Some weeks ago I switched on my old Falcon030 for the first time since 1997. The operating system feels surprisingly modern and fast. If it weren't for the low screen resolution, you could almost mistake it for an up-to-date window manager like XFCE.

pjmlp 3y ago
I have the same opinion in regards to the Amiga, there are many workloads that they would do just fine nowadays. Writing letters, basic spreadsheets, homemade flyers, reading email,...
- rusk 3y ago
  Wonder how it would manage with TLS everywhere …
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    The tasks I listed don't require TLS everywhere.
    - rusk 3y ago
      These days they do. Everyone does their business on the web. Sorry I get where you’re coming from but I was just adding this because as a vintage technology enthusiast this is an issue I come up against constantly.
      - pjmlp 3y ago
        In which part of "Writing letters, basic spreadsheets, homemade flyers" is TLS required?
        rusk 3y ago
        Put the baseball bat down bro. You are describing something I do a lot, I play with old computers and try to put them to use. Pervasive cryptography has changed everything even stuff that’s ten years old has issues with certificates and deprecated versions. In any modern setting this is a serious handicap. tl;dr our hardware requirements would be vastly slashed if we didn’t have an expectation of TLS everywhere.
        pjmlp 3y ago
        Bro explain the HN audience how using AmigaWriter or PageStream, alongside a printer pluged via the Amiga printer port, requires TLS.
        rusk 3y ago
        Well you’re really narrowing down the usescases to suit an argument we really don’t even need to have this is boring
        pjmlp 3y ago
        You are free to explain the same to the other use cases I mentioned on my first comment, and I am still curious. In case you go for email, I didn't mention the communication protocol, or possible existence of a gateway.
        kjs3 3y ago
        I though it was obvious: "you don't do what I do, exactly like I do it, therefore you are wrong". There's a lot of that type running around.
        anthk 3y ago
        AmiSSL exists. Gemini browsers for Amiga too.
        pjmlp 3y ago
        I know, I didn't specify Web browsing on purpose, because some "I feel smart" would exactly react as they did. Turns out there is still a lot of uses a computer can serve without being plugged into the Internet.
        deleted 3y ago
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KingOfCoders 3y ago
Wanted a Falcon030 back in the days, couldn't get one, settled with a Bebox.
- sillywalk 3y ago
  Teenage me is envious of your BeBox.
steve1977 3y ago
I used the TOS alternative MagiC with NVDI and an alternative desktop called Jinnee on my Falcon back then (when I wasn't using it for music production, those programs where usually incompatible with MagiC). This made the system feel pretty much state of the art. https://www.atariuptodate.de/en/447/jinnee#img1 https://www.atariuptodate.de/en/447/jinnee#img1

pjmlp 3y ago

I have the same opinion in regards to the Amiga, there are many workloads that they would do just fine nowadays. Writing letters, basic spreadsheets, homemade flyers, reading email,...

rusk 3y ago
Wonder how it would manage with TLS everywhere …
- pjmlp 3y ago
  The tasks I listed don't require TLS everywhere.
  - rusk 3y ago
    These days they do. Everyone does their business on the web. Sorry I get where you’re coming from but I was just adding this because as a vintage technology enthusiast this is an issue I come up against constantly.
    - pjmlp 3y ago
      In which part of "Writing letters, basic spreadsheets, homemade flyers" is TLS required?
      - rusk 3y ago
        Put the baseball bat down bro. You are describing something I do a lot, I play with old computers and try to put them to use. Pervasive cryptography has changed everything even stuff that’s ten years old has issues with certificates and deprecated versions. In any modern setting this is a serious handicap. tl;dr our hardware requirements would be vastly slashed if we didn’t have an expectation of TLS everywhere.
        pjmlp 3y ago
        Bro explain the HN audience how using AmigaWriter or PageStream, alongside a printer pluged via the Amiga printer port, requires TLS.
        rusk 3y ago
        Well you’re really narrowing down the usescases to suit an argument we really don’t even need to have this is boring
        pjmlp 3y ago
        You are free to explain the same to the other use cases I mentioned on my first comment, and I am still curious. In case you go for email, I didn't mention the communication protocol, or possible existence of a gateway.
        kjs3 3y ago
        I though it was obvious: "you don't do what I do, exactly like I do it, therefore you are wrong". There's a lot of that type running around.
        anthk 3y ago
        AmiSSL exists. Gemini browsers for Amiga too.
        pjmlp 3y ago
        I know, I didn't specify Web browsing on purpose, because some "I feel smart" would exactly react as they did. Turns out there is still a lot of uses a computer can serve without being plugged into the Internet.
      - deleted 3y ago
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KingOfCoders 3y ago

Wanted a Falcon030 back in the days, couldn't get one, settled with a Bebox.

sillywalk 3y ago
Teenage me is envious of your BeBox.

steve1977 3y ago

I used the TOS alternative MagiC with NVDI and an alternative desktop called Jinnee on my Falcon back then (when I wasn't using it for music production, those programs where usually incompatible with MagiC). This made the system feel pretty much state of the art. https://www.atariuptodate.de/en/447/jinnee#img1 https://www.atariuptodate.de/en/447/jinnee#img1