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You are going to have a hard time arguing that the Switch, one of the most successful console of all times is losing money because of emulation. There's the pe

You are going to have a hard time arguing that the Switch, one of the most successful console of all times is losing money because of emulation. There's the people who will never pay a penny to Nintendo anyways and there's the people who just want to run their own games in something better than a choppy 1280x720@30FPS

msm_ 3y ago
>You are going to have a hard time arguing that the Switch, one of the most successful console of all times is losing money because of emulation. So you're saying that Nintendo's hard stance on emulation is working? (I don't think this is the reason, but I can imagine someone in management deducing that from the facts).
- realusername 3y ago
  > So you're saying that Nintendo's hard stance on emulation is working? Obviously not since this console has the highest quality emulators I've even seen during the console's lifetime. Usually you need to wait 5+ years after the console dies to get anything remotely as good. So we can confidently say that emulation being available didn't affect the high sales of the console.
matsemann 3y ago
Their hard stance on emulation might be exactly why it's one of the most successful consoles of all times, no?
- cherryteastain 3y ago
  That argument does not hold water because Switch was already one of the most successful consoles of all time before they even lifted a finger againt Yuzu. Switch's sales/success did not substantially change in the <1 month period that passed since they started the lawsuit against Yuzu.
  - matsemann 3y ago
    Your argument doesn't hold water, because this isn't a recent development.
    - cherryteastain 3y ago
      Lawsuit filed on Feb 26 2024 [0]. Switch launched on March 3 2017 [1]. Yuzu's first release on Jan 14 2018 [2]. Therefore, a Switch emulator existed for the vast majority of the Switch's lifetime and the lawsuit is a very recent development compared to the lifetime of the Switch and the emulator. Hence, if Yuzu was so gravely damaging to Nintendo, we would not see the Switch become one of the most successful consoles of all time by selling over 115M units in the Q1 2018 - Q3 2023 timeframe [3] [0] https://www.scribd.com/document/709016504/Nintendo-of-America-Inc-v-Tropic-Haze-LLC-1-24-Cv-00082-No-1-D-R-I-Feb-26-2024 https://www.scribd.com/document/709016504/Nintendo-of-Americ... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzu_(emulator) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzu_(emulator) [3] https://www.statista.com/statistics/687059/nintendo-switch-unit-sales-worldwide/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/687059/nintendo-switch-u...
      - matsemann 3y ago
        Not relevant to the point. There's been multiple takedowns over the years, and Nintendo's known stance on this has probably stopped it from being a free-for-all. So you must compare it to what it could have been.
        cherryteastain 3y ago
        Right, let me sue my kindergarten, I could have been a been a trillionaire now if it weren't for the substandard education they gave me...
- realusername 3y ago
  Well that didn't succeed then because it's also the most emulated console of all times after launch. I've never seen such a competition of very high quality emulators in the lifetime of a console. Usually you need to wait 5+ years after the console dies to get anything remotely useful.

msm_ 3y ago

>You are going to have a hard time arguing that the Switch, one of the most successful console of all times is losing money because of emulation. So you're saying that Nintendo's hard stance on emulation is working? (I don't think this is the reason, but I can imagine someone in management deducing that from the facts).

realusername 3y ago
> So you're saying that Nintendo's hard stance on emulation is working? Obviously not since this console has the highest quality emulators I've even seen during the console's lifetime. Usually you need to wait 5+ years after the console dies to get anything remotely as good. So we can confidently say that emulation being available didn't affect the high sales of the console.

matsemann 3y ago

Their hard stance on emulation might be exactly why it's one of the most successful consoles of all times, no?

cherryteastain 3y ago
That argument does not hold water because Switch was already one of the most successful consoles of all time before they even lifted a finger againt Yuzu. Switch's sales/success did not substantially change in the <1 month period that passed since they started the lawsuit against Yuzu.
- matsemann 3y ago
  Your argument doesn't hold water, because this isn't a recent development.
  - cherryteastain 3y ago
    Lawsuit filed on Feb 26 2024 [0]. Switch launched on March 3 2017 [1]. Yuzu's first release on Jan 14 2018 [2]. Therefore, a Switch emulator existed for the vast majority of the Switch's lifetime and the lawsuit is a very recent development compared to the lifetime of the Switch and the emulator. Hence, if Yuzu was so gravely damaging to Nintendo, we would not see the Switch become one of the most successful consoles of all time by selling over 115M units in the Q1 2018 - Q3 2023 timeframe [3] [0] https://www.scribd.com/document/709016504/Nintendo-of-America-Inc-v-Tropic-Haze-LLC-1-24-Cv-00082-No-1-D-R-I-Feb-26-2024 https://www.scribd.com/document/709016504/Nintendo-of-Americ... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzu_(emulator) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzu_(emulator) [3] https://www.statista.com/statistics/687059/nintendo-switch-unit-sales-worldwide/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/687059/nintendo-switch-u...
    - matsemann 3y ago
      Not relevant to the point. There's been multiple takedowns over the years, and Nintendo's known stance on this has probably stopped it from being a free-for-all. So you must compare it to what it could have been.
      - cherryteastain 3y ago
        Right, let me sue my kindergarten, I could have been a been a trillionaire now if it weren't for the substandard education they gave me...
realusername 3y ago
Well that didn't succeed then because it's also the most emulated console of all times after launch. I've never seen such a competition of very high quality emulators in the lifetime of a console. Usually you need to wait 5+ years after the console dies to get anything remotely useful.