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Gitlab has just told the world that they disable the accounts of people who contribute to a repository which receives a DMCA. You just need to send a reasonably

Gitlab has just told the world that they disable the accounts of people who contribute to a repository which receives a DMCA. You just need to send a reasonably complete DMCA takedown request to get the accounts of the contributors blocked and the repository removed. It doesn't have to be legitimate or even mention what content violates someone's intellectual property, who owns it or how it's actually violated.

andy_ppp 3y ago
I’ve always wondered this (specifically for my situation with music copyright) how do you only give access to takedown requests from the actual copyright holder? How do you know they are who they say they are? Music company email address or KYC checks and then sue people who try to do this as a joke? I wish copyrighted music was a fair price and easy to use, currently for sync licensing the music industry claim to want around 16% of REVENUE which seems insane to me.
- JackSlateur 3y ago
  In France, it must come from a judge. So when I worked at an ISP, we received tons of DMCA requests for customers doing torrent. All of them were redirected to the trash. We won't obey to some random email.
- voxic11 3y ago
  Under DMCA to file a takedown request you must attest under penalty of purgery that you represent the copyright holder. Also the service provider is protected under law if they restore the content due to a counterclaim by the user that the work is not actually infringing.
- farawayea 3y ago
  I'm not part of that industry. My impression has always been that artists from big labels get most of the money. The not so popular ones are probably not getting that much since they likely get worse deals.
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erremerre 3y ago
In youtube there are people who takes ownership of songs that do have copyright owner but the owner don't give crap of people using their music (example, an intro song for a 80s cartoon). The thing, is as long as those people have the ownership, they can demonetise your video and take it down, but you cant remove their claim of ownership unless you are the legal owner of the copyright, who as I said, does not care about it... So whatever system you get, it is not perfect...
- farawayea 3y ago
  I didn't meant to discuss how this should be done or not done, nor the merits of taking down this emulator's repo. I was mostly making a point that one can maliciously take down Gitlab projects and get the accounts of all the contributors blocked immediately without actual proof of wrongdoing. It's not a platform or company which can be trusted. Imagine you start a successful open source project or a company does that. A competitor or someone who wants to do harm can just instantly take down your project and get everyone banned immediately.
elzbardico 3y ago
Which is kind of funny, as GitLab reason d'être was copying another product features verbatim while saving development money by leveraging the open source community.
- krowek 3y ago
  > while saving development money Hell yeah they do.
re_riley 3y ago
Yep, it's a major security and data residency issue. They're going to get in some SERIOUS trouble the minute one troll tries this and any legitimate business is going to recognize the risk and bail long before that happens. RIP gitlab?

andy_ppp 3y ago

I’ve always wondered this (specifically for my situation with music copyright) how do you only give access to takedown requests from the actual copyright holder? How do you know they are who they say they are? Music company email address or KYC checks and then sue people who try to do this as a joke? I wish copyrighted music was a fair price and easy to use, currently for sync licensing the music industry claim to want around 16% of REVENUE which seems insane to me.

JackSlateur 3y ago
In France, it must come from a judge. So when I worked at an ISP, we received tons of DMCA requests for customers doing torrent. All of them were redirected to the trash. We won't obey to some random email.
voxic11 3y ago
Under DMCA to file a takedown request you must attest under penalty of purgery that you represent the copyright holder. Also the service provider is protected under law if they restore the content due to a counterclaim by the user that the work is not actually infringing.
farawayea 3y ago
I'm not part of that industry. My impression has always been that artists from big labels get most of the money. The not so popular ones are probably not getting that much since they likely get worse deals.
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erremerre 3y ago

In youtube there are people who takes ownership of songs that do have copyright owner but the owner don't give crap of people using their music (example, an intro song for a 80s cartoon). The thing, is as long as those people have the ownership, they can demonetise your video and take it down, but you cant remove their claim of ownership unless you are the legal owner of the copyright, who as I said, does not care about it... So whatever system you get, it is not perfect...

farawayea 3y ago
I didn't meant to discuss how this should be done or not done, nor the merits of taking down this emulator's repo. I was mostly making a point that one can maliciously take down Gitlab projects and get the accounts of all the contributors blocked immediately without actual proof of wrongdoing. It's not a platform or company which can be trusted. Imagine you start a successful open source project or a company does that. A competitor or someone who wants to do harm can just instantly take down your project and get everyone banned immediately.

elzbardico 3y ago

Which is kind of funny, as GitLab reason d'être was copying another product features verbatim while saving development money by leveraging the open source community.

krowek 3y ago
> while saving development money Hell yeah they do.

re_riley 3y ago

Yep, it's a major security and data residency issue. They're going to get in some SERIOUS trouble the minute one troll tries this and any legitimate business is going to recognize the risk and bail long before that happens. RIP gitlab?