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The way normal rational people buy computers is as follows. First they decide what they want to do, then they choose applications that do those things. Then the

The way normal rational people buy computers is as follows. First they decide what they want to do, then they choose applications that do those things. Then they choose an operating system that can host the application. Finally they choose a hardware platform that runs both the operating system and the application. Under this process, few users face a choice between a Mac and a Surface.

underlogic 3y ago
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- hulitu 3y ago
  > If an application is windows only I won't use it. Most of us (non SW engineers) do not have this choice.
  - devjab 3y ago
    Many of us in software development work in companies/organisations of sufficient size that IT-operations will enforce a Windows policy because it fits with their entire infrastructure. I don’t mind too much, these days windows doesn’t really get in the way. With everything being done in an IDE and run/build in containers anyway. I do think it’s a little hilarious that the beast of a Lenovo that was 5x the price of my personal m1 air is basically worse in every way. From the terrible performance, the noisy fan, the horrible trackpad and the 1 hour battery life. (To be fair a lot of the resource drain is due to whatever enterprise stuff IT-operations runs on it). But for the most part it just sits closed in a dock with its fan thing pointed away from me, and I bring an extension cord with me to be able to hook it into power in our poorly planned meeting rooms. Anyway, corporate is often a windows world even for SW engineers.
- delfinom 3y ago
  Jesus you drank the koolaid. Lol, dark patterns. Recently got a M2 mac for CI purposes. Step 1 was deleting all the preloaded apple-ware apps that they want to people to use for datamining from the dock, they make it as painful clickfest to remove the 20 fucking default docked apps with even removal animations. Not to mention I ran one fucking update from macOS 13 to 14 and it added all the fucking apps back to the dock. At least on Windows I can run a one line command line statement to remove all the preloaded junk.
  - pohuing 3y ago
    Don't forget the red badge on the settings if you don't use iCloud backups. MS' OneDrive nagging doesn't even compare.

underlogic 3y ago

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hulitu 3y ago
> If an application is windows only I won't use it. Most of us (non SW engineers) do not have this choice.
- devjab 3y ago
  Many of us in software development work in companies/organisations of sufficient size that IT-operations will enforce a Windows policy because it fits with their entire infrastructure. I don’t mind too much, these days windows doesn’t really get in the way. With everything being done in an IDE and run/build in containers anyway. I do think it’s a little hilarious that the beast of a Lenovo that was 5x the price of my personal m1 air is basically worse in every way. From the terrible performance, the noisy fan, the horrible trackpad and the 1 hour battery life. (To be fair a lot of the resource drain is due to whatever enterprise stuff IT-operations runs on it). But for the most part it just sits closed in a dock with its fan thing pointed away from me, and I bring an extension cord with me to be able to hook it into power in our poorly planned meeting rooms. Anyway, corporate is often a windows world even for SW engineers.
delfinom 3y ago
Jesus you drank the koolaid. Lol, dark patterns. Recently got a M2 mac for CI purposes. Step 1 was deleting all the preloaded apple-ware apps that they want to people to use for datamining from the dock, they make it as painful clickfest to remove the 20 fucking default docked apps with even removal animations. Not to mention I ran one fucking update from macOS 13 to 14 and it added all the fucking apps back to the dock. At least on Windows I can run a one line command line statement to remove all the preloaded junk.
- pohuing 3y ago
  Don't forget the red badge on the settings if you don't use iCloud backups. MS' OneDrive nagging doesn't even compare.