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A former abusive supervisor insisted on MS Teams instead of email because she thought Teams was immune to discovery. That is common conduct.
by HarryHirsch 3y ago
A former abusive supervisor insisted on MS Teams instead of email because she thought Teams was immune to discovery. That is common conduct.
- fnordpiglet 3y agoIt’s also absolutely wrong. All communications are discoverable even communications using private devices and services if it’s at all related to what’s being investigated. I know a lot of people use personal devices for corporate work that might involve litigation or investigation thinking it shields them. In fact it implicates them further and taints all their private communications as potentially relevant and discoverable, as well as those they communicate with. It’s a dumb as a stump thing to do.
- jefftk 3y ago> All communications are discoverable Face to face, phone call, and video call are all not recorded, and so not discoverable.
- fnordpiglet 3y agoAt many places phone and videos are absolutely recorded, it depends on the industry. But generally when one says “communications” in the context of discoverability the implication is “humanly possibly to discover communications.”
- d-z-m 3y ago> At many places phone and videos are absolutely recorded do you have an example where this is the case? We're talking about internal company communications, right? Not customer facing quality assurance type recording.
- zogrodea 3y agoThe Indian startup I work for (mentioning Indian because the higher-ups are Indian and it may be related to their culture - I don't know as we're based in the UK and the higher-ups are nice people I think) used to do this. Was asked to record Zoom meetings I had with a junior colleague for some reason (we were discussing implementation work). I think it's a more relaxed/trusted environment for them now.
- smashed 3y agoThat is still more or less voluntary manual recording, sprinkled with micro management vibes. What's at stake here is systematic and transparent recording of all video and audio conversation. Does it exist? Does ms teams for example has an enterprise feature available to record and archive everything without the meeting organizer activating the recording explicitly?
- cameldrv 3y agoIn the finance industry this is required by regulation for many types of phone/video calls.
- fnordpiglet 3y agoMany major banks will record all communications of people involved in trading (traders, sales, etc) whether internal or external.
- quarterdime 3y agoEnron energy traders called power plants and asked them to shut down during high load times. They encouraged the plant personnel to fabricate the reason for shut down. This created an electricity shortage, which forced rolling blackouts. Energy prices shot up, making for massive profits for Enron. There were also headline stories about elderly people suffering without air conditioning. The Enron traders joked about this in their phone calls to one another. Of course, we only know about this because their phone calls were recorded. If I recall correctly, none of the traders indicated that they were aware their calls were recorded. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-feb-04-fi-enron4-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-feb-04-fi-enron... https://www.npr.org/2006/01/31/5180594/enron-trader-tapes-available-on-the-internet https://www.npr.org/2006/01/31/5180594/enron-trader-tapes-av...
- odiroot 3y agoE in e-mail stands for evidence ;)