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Netflix Kept Showing Smoking in TV Shows Despite 2019 Pledge, Study Finds
- nuker 3y agoI just started watching 3 Body Problem, and in first 20 mins smoking scenes are non-stop.
- blinded 3y agoJust picked up this book, looking forward to it.
- morkalork 3y agoAre there any shows with casual vaping in them or is it that uncool?
- bigyikes 3y agoNow that you mention it, I’ve yet to see anybody look cool while hitting a vape.
- jorvi 3y agoVaping has neither the danger and cavalierness of smoking nor the struggle of fighting the good fight that patches represent. They’re a meek indulgence mostly associated with teens and douchey vapebros. Mostly a visual / associative thing though because scant few people have anything less than a dislike for the smells of cigarette smoke.
- johnbatch 3y agoLots. 10 years ago - house of cards [0] showed Kevin Spacey vaping. Also True Detective season 2 [1] [0]https://youtu.be/tduSghkW_UA https://youtu.be/tduSghkW_UA [1]https://youtu.be/EL3AuyOfBtI https://youtu.be/EL3AuyOfBtI
- hackeraccount 3y agoTrue Detective season 2 is the only time I've seen vaping on a show.
- rickydroll 3y agoThe Gentlemen. IIRC, the idiot older brother was a frequent vaper.
- floren 3y agoIt would be a little ridiculous if The Queen's Gambit, set in the 60s, and Stranger Things, set in the early 80s, didn't have smoking. Those were some smoky damn decades.
- fbdab103 3y agoIt is wild when you watch a movie in the 80s-90s and see people casually smoking in a mall or restaurant. Amazing how quickly that changed.
- technion 3y agoI spent the day with my Dad who wanted to watch a classic cricket game from the 80's - it was totally wild seeing coaches, commentators and even bench warming players smoking the entire game, on a field covered in cigarette advertising. It looked horrible, but games today are exactly the same with sports gambling. I wonder when the view on that will change.
- MrMember 3y agoI'm not even that old and I remember smoking and non-smoking sections in restaurants. You could still smoke in bars when I was in college.
- nuker 3y agoWhat about latest sci-fi show 3 Body Problem? The year is 2024 in it.
- ogoffart 3y agoAccording to IMDB, the show is rated "TV-MA", so not really "aimed at younger viewers" Edit: I just noticed that some of the other show mentioned in the article also have this classification. So I guess this is not relevant.
- bigyikes 3y agoIsn’t there just something romantic about a cigarette? Sure, they make you smell worse a dirty vacuum cleaner, and they’ll probably kill you, but think of the aesthetic!
- vsnf 3y agoYou joke, but I think about this relatively often. There really is something cool about the aesthetic of using cigarettes. I also think about a related but opposite problem of helmets, for instance for bicycling, skateboarding, or snowboarding. Something so essential looks so goofy, and this surely hinders usage. I wonder what it would take to make them switch places, culturally.
- jaggederest 3y agoA legal mandate that all helmets must stylistically descend from Daft Punk?
- jorvi 3y agoI don’t know about helmets, seeing one clip like this [1] instantly makes them look cool and makes anyone not wearing them look like a complete idiot. Cigarettes get to bypass our monkey brain “you’re an idiot for doing that” because a singular cigarette won’t do severe harm, and the harm from smoking is non-imminent at some nondescript moment in the future. I think part of the aesthetic appeal of cigarettes is they take situations that are passive and make them seem active. Two people having a conversation? No, two people going for a smoke and coincidentally talking. A girl modeling? She’s not posing, she’s just smoking and someone took a candid picture of her. Beth Harmon reading a book in bed? No, she’s smoking and happens to read a book. [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b9yL5usLFgY&pp=ygUOSSBsb3ZlIGhlbG1ldHM%3D https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b9yL5usLFgY&pp=ygUOSSBsb3ZlIGh...
- windows2020 3y agoFrom what I've gathered, cigarettes provided a sort of time out... an opportunity for spontaneous interaction... the interaction that open floor plans were supposed to provide.
- thorum 3y agoThe 2012 surgeon general report linked in the article goes into depth about the debate on this topic and the research that has been done into the effects of smoking in films on children: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK99238/#ch5.s78 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK99238/#ch5.s78
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- soultrees 3y agoI’ve always thought tobacco companies had some influence on Netflix’s programming. The scenes where smoking is involved are usually set up so the whole ritual is seen (take the pack out, maybe tap it, pull it out, light and take your first big inhale with all the sounds and smells that come with it). That’s the ritual that many smokers know and has for sure influenced my cravings when I was trying to quit smoking a few years ago.
- hulitu 3y agoI bet you havent't seen the guns in the movies. /s
- blinded 3y agoI don't have a problem with it personally. Take this idea to the extreme are we going to not show anything in movies that we don't want to advocate for as a society? ie. theft, speeding, violence, etc etc. I'd prefer cinema be given the creative freedom.
- nuker 3y agoCreative freedom is fine. Problem is when it is clearly a product placement and used way more often than for purely creative purpose. And a for a very evil product.
- blinded 3y agoFair point.
- morkalork 3y ago>Take this idea to the extreme are we going to not show anything ... that we don't want to advocate for as a society? It's already absurd. News sites and police are not releasing photos and detailed descriptions of suspects because it would "purpetuate racist stereotypes".