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How were consumers harmed from iMessage? Apple doesn’t stop people from downloading Whatsapp and hundreds of other communication apps. The only semi-valid argum

by lvl102 3y ago

How were consumers harmed from iMessage? Apple doesn’t stop people from downloading Whatsapp and hundreds of other communication apps. The only semi-valid argument they have is the app store. And even that is 10-20% chance considering Apple’s market share. Even though this is DoJ, this is all a part of Lina Khan’s naive crusade against NATURAL monopolies. Just because she doesn’t understand economics and how the real world operates in 2024.

tristan957 3y ago
I am a consumer that was harmed just this week because I wasn't added to a group chat of only iPhone users because I have an Android device.
- edvinbesic 3y ago
  Doesn't really seem like a platform issue per se since your friends could have easily included you just fine, but chose not to.
  - tristan957 3y ago
    No they couldn't. As soon as they add me, they can no longer remove or add people to a group chat.
- hmage 3y ago
  It sounds like "I am a car enthusiast who was harmed this week because I wasn't invited to join a Ferrari owners' club since I drive a Lamborghini." People excluding people is the problem. Not the product.
  - tristan957 3y ago
    As soon as my friends add me, they can no longer remove or add people to a group chat? How is that not consumer harm?
- tatrajim 3y ago
  Sounds like you need new colleagues. Why would you wish to be part of such a snobbish group? I fail to see why anti-trust law should be brought to bear on issues concerning teen fads. How about wearing the right kind of sneakers? Branded purses, handbags? Parkas? Should uniformity reign universal across all consumer products lest someone, somewhere be excluded to a faddish distinction?
  - tristan957 3y ago
    It's not snobby. It's a recognition of the ridiculous walls that Apple puts up around their garden.
  - thomasahle 3y ago
    This is not one group. This is every single group of American iPhone users. Try to get off iMessenger if you want to see it for yourself.
    - vmladenov 3y ago
      No it isn't. Nearly all of my group chats are mixed iPhone/Android skewing towards iPhone. We use Facebook Messenger
- kjkjadksj 3y ago
  Blame your friends, I am in plenty of mixed group chats to no issue.
  - thomasahle 3y ago
    As a European living in the US, I've found that it's nearly impossible to get on American's group chats without an iPhone. Hence I've had to shift my friend groups to be mostly other foreigners. The Americans all say that to get in, you need an iPhone. So definitely a smart monopolistic strategy from Apple.

by lvl102 3y ago

tristan957 3y ago

I am a consumer that was harmed just this week because I wasn't added to a group chat of only iPhone users because I have an Android device.

edvinbesic 3y ago
Doesn't really seem like a platform issue per se since your friends could have easily included you just fine, but chose not to.
- tristan957 3y ago
  No they couldn't. As soon as they add me, they can no longer remove or add people to a group chat.
hmage 3y ago
It sounds like "I am a car enthusiast who was harmed this week because I wasn't invited to join a Ferrari owners' club since I drive a Lamborghini." People excluding people is the problem. Not the product.
- tristan957 3y ago
  As soon as my friends add me, they can no longer remove or add people to a group chat? How is that not consumer harm?
tatrajim 3y ago
Sounds like you need new colleagues. Why would you wish to be part of such a snobbish group? I fail to see why anti-trust law should be brought to bear on issues concerning teen fads. How about wearing the right kind of sneakers? Branded purses, handbags? Parkas? Should uniformity reign universal across all consumer products lest someone, somewhere be excluded to a faddish distinction?
- tristan957 3y ago
  It's not snobby. It's a recognition of the ridiculous walls that Apple puts up around their garden.
- thomasahle 3y ago
  This is not one group. This is every single group of American iPhone users. Try to get off iMessenger if you want to see it for yourself.
  - vmladenov 3y ago
    No it isn't. Nearly all of my group chats are mixed iPhone/Android skewing towards iPhone. We use Facebook Messenger
kjkjadksj 3y ago
Blame your friends, I am in plenty of mixed group chats to no issue.
- thomasahle 3y ago
  As a European living in the US, I've found that it's nearly impossible to get on American's group chats without an iPhone. Hence I've had to shift my friend groups to be mostly other foreigners. The Americans all say that to get in, you need an iPhone. So definitely a smart monopolistic strategy from Apple.