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Visual Studio 5-10 years ago with C#/.NET Intellisense was a great experience and high performance. I have yet to replicate that in the bloated Electron IDEs th

by slily 3y ago

Visual Studio 5-10 years ago with C#/.NET Intellisense was a great experience and high performance. I have yet to replicate that in the bloated Electron IDEs these days, there are still constant issues with autocompletion and navigation being slow or not working randomly for some reason even on my $3000 desktop PC from last year, I haven't found debugging (properly with breakpoints and variable tracking) to be viable compared to "printf debugging" since my Visual Studio days, and the UX of VSCode has not caught up to Visual Studio for bigger projects, file navigation is particularly awful and between the floating toolbars that disappear on a whim and ridiculously narrow scrollbars you'd think they're making it difficult on purpose. It's an improvement from a certain baseline, but Visual Studio set a higher bar for me personally.

dweekly 3y ago
Delphi, Turbo Pascal, Visual Basic, and HyperCard were all really fast ways to build GUIs some 20+ years ago.
berkut 3y ago
Yeah, as someone who's been attempting to use VSCode to do Python and Rust dev over the past three years, I'm continually surprised by people who say VSCode and the Rust analyzer plugin is a Good/Great IDE env. It so often seems non-functional to me: auto-completion just doesn't work consistently, even on really simple things - you firstly normally have to save your file first, and even then often if I restart VSCode it will then work again on something it didn't a minute ago, and other times I can never get it to complete things. And this is happening on two different Linux machines and a MBPro M2 in multiple projects, so I don't think it's just a one-off bad configuration I've somehow got. Its auto-indenting when writing code is insane as well, it seems everyone must be running rustfmt all the time, even on code as they're writing it? It never seems to get the indents right on new lines for me, I'm either having to add them or remove them. At the end of the day it's what you get used to I think, but Visual Studio 15-20 years ago was pretty good (other than the bloody pause for "Updating intellisense"), I've yet to find anything as good for Python as PyCharm, and QtCreator (CLion was pretty good as well) is still the best Linux/MacOS-based C/C++ dev env I've found (but recent versions of it are getting worse IMO what with all the complicated "Kit" build config stuff).
- skydhash 3y ago
  My first code editor was Notepad++ and my first IDE was Code::Blocks. These two worked really fast on my Pentium 4 computer with Windows XP. All the while providing much better experience than VSCode.
bluefirebrand 3y ago
I'm always surprised to hear that people like Visual Studio. Personally I've always felt like it was bloated and slow But I think part of what I dislike about it the most is how opinionated it is about how I structure my projects Maybe good for huge projects with massive teams, but I've never been able to get myself to conform to it

by slily 3y ago

dweekly 3y ago

Delphi, Turbo Pascal, Visual Basic, and HyperCard were all really fast ways to build GUIs some 20+ years ago.

berkut 3y ago

Yeah, as someone who's been attempting to use VSCode to do Python and Rust dev over the past three years, I'm continually surprised by people who say VSCode and the Rust analyzer plugin is a Good/Great IDE env. It so often seems non-functional to me: auto-completion just doesn't work consistently, even on really simple things - you firstly normally have to save your file first, and even then often if I restart VSCode it will then work again on something it didn't a minute ago, and other times I can never get it to complete things. And this is happening on two different Linux machines and a MBPro M2 in multiple projects, so I don't think it's just a one-off bad configuration I've somehow got. Its auto-indenting when writing code is insane as well, it seems everyone must be running rustfmt all the time, even on code as they're writing it? It never seems to get the indents right on new lines for me, I'm either having to add them or remove them. At the end of the day it's what you get used to I think, but Visual Studio 15-20 years ago was pretty good (other than the bloody pause for "Updating intellisense"), I've yet to find anything as good for Python as PyCharm, and QtCreator (CLion was pretty good as well) is still the best Linux/MacOS-based C/C++ dev env I've found (but recent versions of it are getting worse IMO what with all the complicated "Kit" build config stuff).

skydhash 3y ago
My first code editor was Notepad++ and my first IDE was Code::Blocks. These two worked really fast on my Pentium 4 computer with Windows XP. All the while providing much better experience than VSCode.

bluefirebrand 3y ago

I'm always surprised to hear that people like Visual Studio. Personally I've always felt like it was bloated and slow But I think part of what I dislike about it the most is how opinionated it is about how I structure my projects Maybe good for huge projects with massive teams, but I've never been able to get myself to conform to it