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There is literally only one other competitor. That is not flourishing, competitive market when consumers can make many different choices. There are two companie

There is literally only one other competitor. That is not flourishing, competitive market when consumers can make many different choices. There are two companies that control nearly the entirety of the mobile software market, how can you expect that there would be no oversight to make sure they don't advantage their own software offerings?

dpkonofa 3y ago
But the reason is there only one other competitor isn't at all because of Apple or the competitor and doesn't have anything to do with their practices. The reason for it is because it's incredibly difficult and complex to put together a device like that and only certain types of companies have the resources and funds to create a product like that.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  > isn't at all because of Apple or the competitor and doesn't have anything to do with their practices. Can you buy the display from a supplier that supplies Apple and put together your own phone? No, they have exclusive agreement with apple. Their anticompetitive practices Make It incredibly difficult and complex to put together a device. That's the whole point!
  - tpmoney 3y ago
    Is the assertion that Apple's supposed monopoly is because they have exclusive agreements on their hardware?
  - intrasight 3y ago
    Exclusive agreements are legal.
    - Jensson 3y ago
      Not if you are a dominant company.
  - astrange 3y ago
    I think you could buy an OLED display from Samsung if you wanted.
tpmoney 3y ago
Samsung, Sony, Google, LG, Xiaomi, Motorola, Nokia, TCL, Kyocera, Fairphone, Pine64, Purism, and many others are more than "literally only one other competitor". And even if your complaint is that the only other option is "Android", there's no reason why those manufacturers couldn't make their own OS if they wanted to. There's no reason why even if they didn't want to, they couldn't make their own custom Android distribution. If the linux community as small as it is can produce multiple varied and unique linux distributions largely on the backs of volunteers, there's no reason why these manufacturers (especially some of the bigger names) couldn't do the same with Android / Linux and their own hardware. And whatever reason is behind the failure of literally the entire cellphone industry to do what they were doing before the advent of iOS and Android, it isn't because Apple is somehow stopping them from making their own OS, and SDKs and app stores.

dpkonofa 3y ago

But the reason is there only one other competitor isn't at all because of Apple or the competitor and doesn't have anything to do with their practices. The reason for it is because it's incredibly difficult and complex to put together a device like that and only certain types of companies have the resources and funds to create a product like that.

ClumsyPilot 3y ago
> isn't at all because of Apple or the competitor and doesn't have anything to do with their practices. Can you buy the display from a supplier that supplies Apple and put together your own phone? No, they have exclusive agreement with apple. Their anticompetitive practices Make It incredibly difficult and complex to put together a device. That's the whole point!
- tpmoney 3y ago
  Is the assertion that Apple's supposed monopoly is because they have exclusive agreements on their hardware?
- intrasight 3y ago
  Exclusive agreements are legal.
  - Jensson 3y ago
    Not if you are a dominant company.
- astrange 3y ago
  I think you could buy an OLED display from Samsung if you wanted.

tpmoney 3y ago

Samsung, Sony, Google, LG, Xiaomi, Motorola, Nokia, TCL, Kyocera, Fairphone, Pine64, Purism, and many others are more than "literally only one other competitor". And even if your complaint is that the only other option is "Android", there's no reason why those manufacturers couldn't make their own OS if they wanted to. There's no reason why even if they didn't want to, they couldn't make their own custom Android distribution. If the linux community as small as it is can produce multiple varied and unique linux distributions largely on the backs of volunteers, there's no reason why these manufacturers (especially some of the bigger names) couldn't do the same with Android / Linux and their own hardware. And whatever reason is behind the failure of literally the entire cellphone industry to do what they were doing before the advent of iOS and Android, it isn't because Apple is somehow stopping them from making their own OS, and SDKs and app stores.