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(Still installing/configuring.) Awesome, this is the main piece of puzzle I (or rather: my wife) miss from Nextcloud (the default Photos has terrible performan

by Fnoord 3y ago

(Still installing/configuring.) Awesome, this is the main piece of puzzle I (or rather: my wife) miss from Nextcloud (the default Photos has terrible performance and lacks some features). Gonna set it up. Also nice to see Face Recognition app is used. Now I'm gonna have to edit my docker-compose.yml for the dependencies but that is fine. Also, I've been trying Photoprism and also I tried Immich in past. They have disadvantages: they don't sync with whatever got uploaded to Nextcloud and they either do not have a mobile front-end or it is some web app. They also have stability issues, though I had most success with Photoprism. I suppose it won't be as useful to me as it could be as I'm stripping all EXIF data from any photo uploaded by Nextcloud because I fear my wife stupidly just shares whatever when she should not. Yes, I know you can do OSINT analysis anyway, but that is a skill as of yet.

jvanderbot 3y ago
Try https://ente.io/ https://ente.io/ I like it very much.
- avhception 3y ago
  Thanks, that looks really interesting!
- Fnoord 3y ago
  Not for me. I self-host Nextcloud in my home network. I have a Wireguard VPN set up to it, too. I'll have fiber (1000/1000 mbit) soon, so not worried about network speed. I prefer something native in Nextcloud. And I do not need E2E encryption; I already use FDE in this VM. That said, to each their own, thanks for sharing.
  - jvanderbot 3y ago
    Your setup is what I set out to build. Ente.io is what I landed in after I managed to put it off so long. Congrats on actually doing it
    - Fnoord 3y ago
      My wife ain't happy with performance. Hence I tried Immich, Photoprism, even attempted using Redis but not satisfied with any of these. After installing Nextcloud Preview plugin it might've improved. I am currently processing entire library with Nextcloud Face Recognition plugin model 4 (= 1 + 3) since model 1 only recognizes our kids as same person. Almost done, then I tag clusters and give it a whirl. Nextcloud Memories is ready as I speak but because I put strip EXIF on uploads, it isn't as useful.
screamingninja 3y ago
Thoughts about Les Pas? https://github.com/scubajeff/lespas https://github.com/scubajeff/lespas - comes with built-in two-way sync with Nextcloud server (no affiliation, just a curious Nextcloud user)
wkipling 3y ago
None of those negatives you mentioned apply to Immich.
iforgotpassword 3y ago
Man, I've yet to find the perfect solution for this. Photoprism was really promising at first but the Dev can't seem to handle the stress of trying to make this pay his rent. Sometimes he reacts really pissed if people complain about something missing/broken, and not just if they're unreasonable or something. Just not very clever if that's the same people who are paying you. Pull requests get denied or rejected for the smallest of reasons. yes, it's his project and you should not just merge any crappy code, but it's things like rejecting an API extension by developers of the mobile app so they eventually give up on the app. The facial recognition is subpar and performs worse the more faces you tagged, but it's always the users fault somehow, instead of accepting that yes even though you put a lot of work and effort into it, the result might be bad. Then somehow immich comes along and manages to basically become a better photoprism over night because it's somehow just a well managed project accepting a lot of contributions without the code turning into complete shit. I don't know what to say. I'm still a sponsor of photoprism bot it seems the guy running it is his own worst enemy in some ways.
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  Being a "hero" open source dev for a project like that can require a lot of neuroticism. Sometimes it works, but sometimes the project is just too big, I think.
- janwillemb 3y ago
  Somehow I'm relieved by this comment, that it's not just me. I've tried communicating with the author about face recognition and always got answers that I considered slightly rude and off-putting. I shook it off, contributed some money, and I'm still a user. I'll take a look at immich now though.
COGlory 3y ago
Also check out the nc-photos Android app, it's a nice companion app for Memories: https://gitlab.com/nkming2/nc-photos https://gitlab.com/nkming2/nc-photos
- radialapps 3y ago
  Wanted to drop a note here: nc-photos is really nice but Memories does also have an Android app of its own https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gallery.memories https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gallery.memori...
  - COGlory 3y ago
    Oh wow, that's news to me. I'll check it out
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by Fnoord 3y ago

jvanderbot 3y ago

Try https://ente.io/ https://ente.io/ I like it very much.

avhception 3y ago
Thanks, that looks really interesting!
Fnoord 3y ago
Not for me. I self-host Nextcloud in my home network. I have a Wireguard VPN set up to it, too. I'll have fiber (1000/1000 mbit) soon, so not worried about network speed. I prefer something native in Nextcloud. And I do not need E2E encryption; I already use FDE in this VM. That said, to each their own, thanks for sharing.
- jvanderbot 3y ago
  Your setup is what I set out to build. Ente.io is what I landed in after I managed to put it off so long. Congrats on actually doing it
  - Fnoord 3y ago
    My wife ain't happy with performance. Hence I tried Immich, Photoprism, even attempted using Redis but not satisfied with any of these. After installing Nextcloud Preview plugin it might've improved. I am currently processing entire library with Nextcloud Face Recognition plugin model 4 (= 1 + 3) since model 1 only recognizes our kids as same person. Almost done, then I tag clusters and give it a whirl. Nextcloud Memories is ready as I speak but because I put strip EXIF on uploads, it isn't as useful.

screamingninja 3y ago

Thoughts about Les Pas? https://github.com/scubajeff/lespas https://github.com/scubajeff/lespas - comes with built-in two-way sync with Nextcloud server (no affiliation, just a curious Nextcloud user)

wkipling 3y ago

None of those negatives you mentioned apply to Immich.

iforgotpassword 3y ago

Man, I've yet to find the perfect solution for this. Photoprism was really promising at first but the Dev can't seem to handle the stress of trying to make this pay his rent. Sometimes he reacts really pissed if people complain about something missing/broken, and not just if they're unreasonable or something. Just not very clever if that's the same people who are paying you. Pull requests get denied or rejected for the smallest of reasons. yes, it's his project and you should not just merge any crappy code, but it's things like rejecting an API extension by developers of the mobile app so they eventually give up on the app. The facial recognition is subpar and performs worse the more faces you tagged, but it's always the users fault somehow, instead of accepting that yes even though you put a lot of work and effort into it, the result might be bad. Then somehow immich comes along and manages to basically become a better photoprism over night because it's somehow just a well managed project accepting a lot of contributions without the code turning into complete shit. I don't know what to say. I'm still a sponsor of photoprism bot it seems the guy running it is his own worst enemy in some ways.

brucethemoose2 3y ago
Being a "hero" open source dev for a project like that can require a lot of neuroticism. Sometimes it works, but sometimes the project is just too big, I think.
janwillemb 3y ago
Somehow I'm relieved by this comment, that it's not just me. I've tried communicating with the author about face recognition and always got answers that I considered slightly rude and off-putting. I shook it off, contributed some money, and I'm still a user. I'll take a look at immich now though.

COGlory 3y ago

Also check out the nc-photos Android app, it's a nice companion app for Memories: https://gitlab.com/nkming2/nc-photos https://gitlab.com/nkming2/nc-photos

radialapps 3y ago
Wanted to drop a note here: nc-photos is really nice but Memories does also have an Android app of its own https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gallery.memories https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gallery.memori...
- COGlory 3y ago
  Oh wow, that's news to me. I'll check it out

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