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I think you are massively underestimating how quickly AI generated content is going to dominate the web. This is something new.

squigz 3y ago
I don't know. People have been saying quite confidently that "AI" is "going to" "take over" the web since ChatGPT was announced. I live online and my only exposure to AI-generated content (that I recognize, of course, but that's another discussion) has been on purpose - when I look for it, use it myself, or others share what they're doing with it. I guess I'm still waiting for it to take over? I think what people mean by "the web" is really just the 4-5 large social media sites. Those have been utterly filled with spam/scam/fraud for many years, so I fail to see a difference.
- krapp 3y ago
  >I think what people mean by "the web" is really just the 4-5 large social media sites. Those have been utterly filled with spam/scam/fraud for many years, so I fail to see a difference. No, as the linked thread shows, this is happening everywhere, not just the 4-5 large social media silos. There is another completely separate thread knocking around on HN somewhere about how AI spam is filling up OpenAI's chatbot store, and it's been well documented as a problem with Google image search, Quora, Linkedin and numerous other sites. It's apparent that you yourself don't notice the problem but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.
  - squigz 3y ago
    > It's apparent that you yourself don't notice the problem but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. Well that's true, but likewise, just because people notice the problem more in their own lives, doesn't mean it's as widespread as some say. (Neither of these comments are meant to say that this is not a problem - it is - I'm just tired of the crazy-overstated FUD surrounding it all)
- barbazoo 3y ago
  It's hard to know where SEO ends and AI content begins but it's definitely a www phenomenon, not just "4-5 large social media sites".
- bluefirebrand 3y ago
  > when I look for it, use it myself, or others share what they're doing with it. I guess I'm still waiting for it to take over Dunno if you follow gaming news at all, but AI spam has become the rule if you look for anything on new popular games If you want to know how to solve a puzzle or compare two characters or something, it is almost guaranteed that you will come across pages of search results that seem like generated content They are usually wrong, too
  - orbital-decay 3y ago
    Current amount of SEO spam is nowhere near the 2007 levels, when the entire first page of Google results was your search query with stuff like "xxx", "2007 crack", or "download free" attached to it. >If you want to know how to solve a puzzle or compare two characters or something, it is almost guaranteed that you will come across pages of search results that seem like generated content This kind of content was never genuine. It was always low effort trash made to cheat search engines. It was either outsourced to copywriters regurgitating the same content over and over, or automatically generated when possible. Automating it with LLMs simply made it obvious. Amazon book scams is the age-old tradition at this point, it exists for well over a decade and is a result of Amazon not willing to spend even one cent on manual curation. OP might have a point, but it's still mostly typical microblogging ragebait with unrelated stuff mixed in.
    - klyrs 3y ago
      > This kind of content was never genuine. Maybe not in your lifetime, but in mine, high-quality game walkthroughs with in-depth statistics were pretty ordinary for even fairly niche games.
      - epiccoleman 3y ago
        No kidding. Pour one out for the glory days of .txt game guides ala GameFAQs. No pictures, no ads, just pure plaintext information. Glorious.
  - xboxnolifes 3y ago
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a_vanderbilt 3y ago
This was a plot point in the Cyberpunk lore. The Internet got overrun with AI to the point that they had to build a new Internet in parallel for humans, with mega-companies being the stewards of course. In a way, Pondsmith called this decades ago.
- AwaAwa 3y ago
  Sounds like the AOL walled garden was way ahead of it's time. I can't wait for iInternet from the fruit company.

squigz 3y ago

I don't know. People have been saying quite confidently that "AI" is "going to" "take over" the web since ChatGPT was announced. I live online and my only exposure to AI-generated content (that I recognize, of course, but that's another discussion) has been on purpose - when I look for it, use it myself, or others share what they're doing with it. I guess I'm still waiting for it to take over? I think what people mean by "the web" is really just the 4-5 large social media sites. Those have been utterly filled with spam/scam/fraud for many years, so I fail to see a difference.

krapp 3y ago
>I think what people mean by "the web" is really just the 4-5 large social media sites. Those have been utterly filled with spam/scam/fraud for many years, so I fail to see a difference. No, as the linked thread shows, this is happening everywhere, not just the 4-5 large social media silos. There is another completely separate thread knocking around on HN somewhere about how AI spam is filling up OpenAI's chatbot store, and it's been well documented as a problem with Google image search, Quora, Linkedin and numerous other sites. It's apparent that you yourself don't notice the problem but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.
- squigz 3y ago
  > It's apparent that you yourself don't notice the problem but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. Well that's true, but likewise, just because people notice the problem more in their own lives, doesn't mean it's as widespread as some say. (Neither of these comments are meant to say that this is not a problem - it is - I'm just tired of the crazy-overstated FUD surrounding it all)
barbazoo 3y ago
It's hard to know where SEO ends and AI content begins but it's definitely a www phenomenon, not just "4-5 large social media sites".
bluefirebrand 3y ago
> when I look for it, use it myself, or others share what they're doing with it. I guess I'm still waiting for it to take over Dunno if you follow gaming news at all, but AI spam has become the rule if you look for anything on new popular games If you want to know how to solve a puzzle or compare two characters or something, it is almost guaranteed that you will come across pages of search results that seem like generated content They are usually wrong, too
- orbital-decay 3y ago
  Current amount of SEO spam is nowhere near the 2007 levels, when the entire first page of Google results was your search query with stuff like "xxx", "2007 crack", or "download free" attached to it. >If you want to know how to solve a puzzle or compare two characters or something, it is almost guaranteed that you will come across pages of search results that seem like generated content This kind of content was never genuine. It was always low effort trash made to cheat search engines. It was either outsourced to copywriters regurgitating the same content over and over, or automatically generated when possible. Automating it with LLMs simply made it obvious. Amazon book scams is the age-old tradition at this point, it exists for well over a decade and is a result of Amazon not willing to spend even one cent on manual curation. OP might have a point, but it's still mostly typical microblogging ragebait with unrelated stuff mixed in.
  - klyrs 3y ago
    > This kind of content was never genuine. Maybe not in your lifetime, but in mine, high-quality game walkthroughs with in-depth statistics were pretty ordinary for even fairly niche games.
    - epiccoleman 3y ago
      No kidding. Pour one out for the glory days of .txt game guides ala GameFAQs. No pictures, no ads, just pure plaintext information. Glorious.
- xboxnolifes 3y ago

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a_vanderbilt 3y ago

This was a plot point in the Cyberpunk lore. The Internet got overrun with AI to the point that they had to build a new Internet in parallel for humans, with mega-companies being the stewards of course. In a way, Pondsmith called this decades ago.

AwaAwa 3y ago
Sounds like the AOL walled garden was way ahead of it's time. I can't wait for iInternet from the fruit company.