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Your points are true for Indian programmers who work for outsourcing shops. Many don't. Google probably has 10K+ H1B engineers from India working for them (and

by ajju 18y ago

Your points are true for Indian programmers who work for outsourcing shops. Many don't. Google probably has 10K+ H1B engineers from India working for them (and not via an intermediary). There are thousands of H1B engineers from India with graduate degrees from top US schools. A very large majority of these Indian programmers care about technology, as do most programmers in India who work for software (non outsourcing) companies. By saying that "Most Indian engineers don't care for technology" you are painting these guys with the same brush. Even with your qualification that "not all are like this", it reeks of bias. A more accurate statement might be "Most Indian programmers who work for outsourcing shops don't care about technology". /An admittedly biased but more informed opinion from someone who has worked as an H1B engineer, has a graduate degree from a top 5 CS school in the US

FraaJad 18y ago
This was in reply to a question where the poster wanted to know why it is hard to find good Indian programmers who currently live in India. Someone who has studied in US does not really belong to the "Indian Programmer" set I was talking about here. If you read my comment elsewhere in the thread, I defended people working for non-SWITCH companies including google for bucking the trend. I know that the caliber of programmers working for Goog, Y!, MS, Adobe is much higher than the typical Indian programmer who aspires to a H1B visa, whose primary motivation for a US Visa is increased money and social status. I'm not painting everybody who is on H1B as bad. But if you consider that nearly 100,000 apply to H1B visas from India, it not hard to see that a vast majority are not of the same caliber as potential GOOG/MS/Y! employees. Well, I have worked in India for 8 years as a programmer and have interviewed dozens of potential employees to work for startup companies that I worked for AND I have had the opportunity to interact with a wide sample of H1Bs in the USA. I stand by my measure of "most programmers" even if it is anecdotal. And your paraphrasing "Most Indian programmers who work for outsourcing shops don't care about technology" carries the same bias that you try to dispel. I personally know a lot of programmers who work/used to work for SWITCh companies while also being excellent hackers and FOSS contributors.

by ajju 18y ago

FraaJad 18y ago

This was in reply to a question where the poster wanted to know why it is hard to find good Indian programmers who currently live in India. Someone who has studied in US does not really belong to the "Indian Programmer" set I was talking about here. If you read my comment elsewhere in the thread, I defended people working for non-SWITCH companies including google for bucking the trend. I know that the caliber of programmers working for Goog, Y!, MS, Adobe is much higher than the typical Indian programmer who aspires to a H1B visa, whose primary motivation for a US Visa is increased money and social status. I'm not painting everybody who is on H1B as bad. But if you consider that nearly 100,000 apply to H1B visas from India, it not hard to see that a vast majority are not of the same caliber as potential GOOG/MS/Y! employees. Well, I have worked in India for 8 years as a programmer and have interviewed dozens of potential employees to work for startup companies that I worked for AND I have had the opportunity to interact with a wide sample of H1Bs in the USA. I stand by my measure of "most programmers" even if it is anecdotal. And your paraphrasing "Most Indian programmers who work for outsourcing shops don't care about technology" carries the same bias that you try to dispel. I personally know a lot of programmers who work/used to work for SWITCh companies while also being excellent hackers and FOSS contributors.