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You better give some references about this "checkered recent history" because for example the programs US had for Africa were removed by GWB in the beginning of
by genman 3y ago
You better give some references about this "checkered recent history" because for example the programs US had for Africa were removed by GWB in the beginning of century when there was still less then billion of people in Africa. Now there is close to twice as that and Africa is not able to feed itself because population is growing faster than its capacity to produce food.
Normally those who stand against birth control have some very clear political agenda to use the size of the population in their advantage.
- ch4s3 3y agoI'm not making an argument against birth control. So as an example of checkered history, I'm referring to things like the push for circumcision as a measure to fight AIDs which has counterintuitively lead to a drop in condom usage in some places[1]. This is a great example of well meaning people from Europe and the US intervening in a way that makes things worse. There have been concerns around HIV risk with DMPA[1] and ethical concerns about around the initial trials of the drug[3]. There were forced sterilizations in South Africa as recently as 2005[4]. There were similar issues in Kenya in the early 2010s[5]. My point was that people should look upon population alarmists with some skepticism, and when they talk about birth control in Africa I think it merits extra scrutiny. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3362967/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3362967/ [2]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7232639/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7232639/ [3]https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17441692.2019.1634118 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17441692.2019.1... [4] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-51637751 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-51637751 [5] https://www.hhrjournal.org/2015/07/kenya-forced-sterilization-hiv/ https://www.hhrjournal.org/2015/07/kenya-forced-sterilizatio...
- genman 3y agoI don't see how any of this is relevant to the issue. I'm talking about birth control that is family planning, programs that provide contraceptives and these incidence are something completely different.