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Google Jamboard is winding down

37 points by wslh 3y ago

rose131317 3y ago
Why
rose131317 3y ago
Why would jambord be going away
jklinger410 3y ago
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shrubble 3y ago
"Over the past couple of years, we’ve heard from customers that whiteboarding tools like FigJam by Figma, Lucidspark by Lucid, and Miro help them work better together. As these tools have grown more capable, offering advanced features such as an infinite canvas, use case templates, voting, and more, we’ve decided to leverage our partner ecosystem" i.e. the vastly-profitable Google couldn't add to or enhance the product while smaller, nimbler competitors were able to ...
- throw3452away 3y ago
  If it's like anything else coming out of Google, most likely those who made it got their cake, I mean pomo package, and moved to something else. Some other folks were left to maintain it until the inevitable sun setting.
- sophacles 3y ago
  I really hope they have this realization about chat soon.
- ripjaygn 3y ago
  > i.e. the vastly-profitable Google couldn't add to or enhance the product while smaller, nimbler competitors were able to ... The real reason is that Google's chart now looks like how Microsoft's used to be[1], while MS seems to have gotten better. [1] https://i.insider.com/4e0b340dcadcbbdd35120000?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp https://i.insider.com/4e0b340dcadcbbdd35120000?width=1000&fo...
justrealist 3y ago
> We will also work directly with educational institutions to compensate them for their Jamboard devices. Fwiw, I remember reading about this a while ago.
nness 3y ago
Google is losing a lot of ground in the office productivity space. I can see Docs, Sheets and Slides being wound-down in the next few years as the distance between these tools and Office widens. The only advantage for the above tools is that they are vastly cheaper for an organisation that is already part of Google Workspace — than switching to Office. It is appealing for small businesses and start-ups, but not much else.
- tayo42 3y ago
  No way. Google docs seems so pervasive. I use spreadsheets and docs constantly in my day to day life outside of work. Isn't there a meme, like, the most important business decisions are made in the 1 inch column section of a Google doc. I never worked with office online though.
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  - jahewson 3y ago
    How much do you pay Google to use docs?
    - tayo42 3y ago
      I assumed I paid them indirectly with my data like gmail haha
    - nness 3y ago
      Not sure why this is downvoted — its exactly the right question. Google has a hard fight ahead keeping its loss-leading services alive. At some point they will need to invest properly in their Workplace suite and start competing in the corporate productivity space — or, as I expect, risk being relegated to the small-business/home-user segment.
- browningstreet 3y ago
  I think the lack of a unified, platform integrated chat platform, a la Slack and Teams, will hurt a lot. They did great with Google Docs, and then built out a ridiculously complicated but robust Workspace Admin platform, but don't even seem to be thinking about chat anymore. Office, Office Web, and Teams are a nice fit for business users. Ops/dev still tend to gravitate towards Slack. Which makes their RCS complaints even more ...amusing (yes, I know it's not really the same space, or the same team, or the same platform -- but it is chat).
mattcantstop 3y ago
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richardwhiuk 3y ago
> Will I be able to keep my Jam files in Drive? Surely you can keep any file in a Google Drive? The answer that they are going effectively remove files from Google Drives is ... worrying.
- sanderjd 3y ago
  You can keep any file in a google drive, but you can't (necessarily) keep things that are not files, but rather references to entities inside other applications. This is why it's important for applications to have some kind of mechanism for exporting their data as files. But many don't.
  - richardwhiuk 3y ago
    Hmm, sounds like Google Jamboard has blurred what file means to the point it's pointless.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  The “files” of many online services (including Google Docs and Sheets themselves, but this can even be true of third-party, non-Google services) stored in Drive do not have the data content you might think, they are basically hyperlinks to content stored in the relevant services, so if the service were to go away they would be useless even if they still technically existed in the Drive.
pvg 3y ago
Previous discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694154 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694154
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loosescrews 3y ago
I think the concept was fine, but the quality was terrible. When they first launched, my employer at the time bought a bunch of them. Lots of people used them a few times, but then stopped because they were unusable. The software was definitely buggy, but they were so bad there could have been hardware issues as well. I don't think anyone I knew ever tired them again. I'm honestly surprised that they lasted this long. Maybe they eventually got better?
itronitron 3y ago
I propose assembling a secret team within Google that will create a product (STOps) solely focused on the successful 'winding down' of Google products/projects/etc. so that when Google ultimately 'winds down' the STOps product it will no longer be able to 'wind down' any currently ongoing or future products/projects/etc...
xnx 3y ago
Google Ending Support for Jamboard https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694154 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694154 6 months ago | 257 comments
BoorishBears 3y ago
I still have my 150 lb paper weight of a Jamboard stalking the corner of my living room...

37 points by wslh 3y ago

rose131317 3y ago

Why

rose131317 3y ago

Why would jambord be going away

jklinger410 3y ago

[flagged]

shrubble 3y ago

"Over the past couple of years, we’ve heard from customers that whiteboarding tools like FigJam by Figma, Lucidspark by Lucid, and Miro help them work better together. As these tools have grown more capable, offering advanced features such as an infinite canvas, use case templates, voting, and more, we’ve decided to leverage our partner ecosystem" i.e. the vastly-profitable Google couldn't add to or enhance the product while smaller, nimbler competitors were able to ...

throw3452away 3y ago
If it's like anything else coming out of Google, most likely those who made it got their cake, I mean pomo package, and moved to something else. Some other folks were left to maintain it until the inevitable sun setting.
sophacles 3y ago
I really hope they have this realization about chat soon.
ripjaygn 3y ago
> i.e. the vastly-profitable Google couldn't add to or enhance the product while smaller, nimbler competitors were able to ... The real reason is that Google's chart now looks like how Microsoft's used to be[1], while MS seems to have gotten better. [1] https://i.insider.com/4e0b340dcadcbbdd35120000?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp https://i.insider.com/4e0b340dcadcbbdd35120000?width=1000&fo...

justrealist 3y ago

> We will also work directly with educational institutions to compensate them for their Jamboard devices. Fwiw, I remember reading about this a while ago.

nness 3y ago

Google is losing a lot of ground in the office productivity space. I can see Docs, Sheets and Slides being wound-down in the next few years as the distance between these tools and Office widens. The only advantage for the above tools is that they are vastly cheaper for an organisation that is already part of Google Workspace — than switching to Office. It is appealing for small businesses and start-ups, but not much else.

tayo42 3y ago
No way. Google docs seems so pervasive. I use spreadsheets and docs constantly in my day to day life outside of work. Isn't there a meme, like, the most important business decisions are made in the 1 inch column section of a Google doc. I never worked with office online though.
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- jahewson 3y ago
  How much do you pay Google to use docs?
  - tayo42 3y ago
    I assumed I paid them indirectly with my data like gmail haha
  - nness 3y ago
    Not sure why this is downvoted — its exactly the right question. Google has a hard fight ahead keeping its loss-leading services alive. At some point they will need to invest properly in their Workplace suite and start competing in the corporate productivity space — or, as I expect, risk being relegated to the small-business/home-user segment.
browningstreet 3y ago
I think the lack of a unified, platform integrated chat platform, a la Slack and Teams, will hurt a lot. They did great with Google Docs, and then built out a ridiculously complicated but robust Workspace Admin platform, but don't even seem to be thinking about chat anymore. Office, Office Web, and Teams are a nice fit for business users. Ops/dev still tend to gravitate towards Slack. Which makes their RCS complaints even more ...amusing (yes, I know it's not really the same space, or the same team, or the same platform -- but it is chat).

mattcantstop 3y ago

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richardwhiuk 3y ago

> Will I be able to keep my Jam files in Drive? Surely you can keep any file in a Google Drive? The answer that they are going effectively remove files from Google Drives is ... worrying.

sanderjd 3y ago
You can keep any file in a google drive, but you can't (necessarily) keep things that are not files, but rather references to entities inside other applications. This is why it's important for applications to have some kind of mechanism for exporting their data as files. But many don't.
- richardwhiuk 3y ago
  Hmm, sounds like Google Jamboard has blurred what file means to the point it's pointless.
dragonwriter 3y ago
The “files” of many online services (including Google Docs and Sheets themselves, but this can even be true of third-party, non-Google services) stored in Drive do not have the data content you might think, they are basically hyperlinks to content stored in the relevant services, so if the service were to go away they would be useless even if they still technically existed in the Drive.

pvg 3y ago

Previous discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694154 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694154

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loosescrews 3y ago

I think the concept was fine, but the quality was terrible. When they first launched, my employer at the time bought a bunch of them. Lots of people used them a few times, but then stopped because they were unusable. The software was definitely buggy, but they were so bad there could have been hardware issues as well. I don't think anyone I knew ever tired them again. I'm honestly surprised that they lasted this long. Maybe they eventually got better?

itronitron 3y ago

I propose assembling a secret team within Google that will create a product (STOps) solely focused on the successful 'winding down' of Google products/projects/etc. so that when Google ultimately 'winds down' the STOps product it will no longer be able to 'wind down' any currently ongoing or future products/projects/etc...

xnx 3y ago

Google Ending Support for Jamboard https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694154 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694154 6 months ago | 257 comments

BoorishBears 3y ago

I still have my 150 lb paper weight of a Jamboard stalking the corner of my living room...