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> Remember the fuss over Ventilators. I do. Although they are written with a lower case letter. Just "ventilators". > People saying "don't put people with wea

> Remember the fuss over Ventilators. I do. Although they are written with a lower case letter. Just "ventilators". > People saying "don't put people with weak pulmonary capillaries on these machines" were "trying to kill everyone" then just ignored. We have people who specialises in respiratory support. Figuring when to put someone on a ventilator, and what type of ventilation they require and for how long are complex questions. There are many many dangers involved which the doctors working with these procedures are very well aware of. These decisions are best made by the patient/patient's legal healthcare proxy in consultation with the healthcare team. Everyone else can be and should be ignored quite honestly.

TMWNN 3y ago
>We have people who specialises in respiratory support. Figuring when to put someone on a ventilator, and what type of ventilation they require and for how long are complex questions. There are many many dangers involved which the doctors working with these procedures are very well aware of. These decisions are best made by the patient/patient's legal healthcare proxy in consultation with the healthcare team. What kind of "the experts always know what they're doing" pablum is this? h2odragon's point is that those specialists were completely wrong. >Everyone else can be and should be ignored quite honestly. This article from April 2020 <https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-overused-for-covid-19/ https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-...> was completely vindicated in retrospect.
- krisoft 3y ago
  > What kind of "the experts always know what they're doing" pablum is this? Didn't write anything like that. > This article from April 2020 <https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-... https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-...> was completely vindicated in retrospect. "some critical care physicians" those are the experts I'm talking about. "Sohan Japa, an internal medicine physician at Boston’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital" That's an expert I'm talking about.

TMWNN 3y ago

>We have people who specialises in respiratory support. Figuring when to put someone on a ventilator, and what type of ventilation they require and for how long are complex questions. There are many many dangers involved which the doctors working with these procedures are very well aware of. These decisions are best made by the patient/patient's legal healthcare proxy in consultation with the healthcare team. What kind of "the experts always know what they're doing" pablum is this? h2odragon's point is that those specialists were completely wrong. >Everyone else can be and should be ignored quite honestly. This article from April 2020 <https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-overused-for-covid-19/ https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-...> was completely vindicated in retrospect.

krisoft 3y ago
> What kind of "the experts always know what they're doing" pablum is this? Didn't write anything like that. > This article from April 2020 <https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-... https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-...> was completely vindicated in retrospect. "some critical care physicians" those are the experts I'm talking about. "Sohan Japa, an internal medicine physician at Boston’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital" That's an expert I'm talking about.