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It seems easy to prove to me; anti-trust law is intentionally vague and broad to allow the government to prosecute all kinds of monopoly tactics. Apple had the

It seems easy to prove to me; anti-trust law is intentionally vague and broad to allow the government to prosecute all kinds of monopoly tactics. Apple had the option to give a warning to users that using an alternative app store may risk security. It doesn't have to block it all-together. Same with Apple Wallet.

gnicholas 3y ago
Yes, there is a lot of discretion in what cases are brought, and if a new administration comes in next year this may be dismissed/deprioritized. Still, I doubt Tim or other Apple employees will be making many donations to Biden's challenger! (Shareholders might be a different story.) Even if the case continues, it will be a challenge to win. Apple has asymmetric information and knows what they can use to defend the various allegations.
- kccqzy 3y ago
  Biden's challenger was in office at the time when the Justice Department started the investigation.
  - gnicholas 3y ago
    Good point, although the decision to move forward with the case was made under the current administration.
    - ysavir 3y ago
      Well damn, if ending Apple's monopoly is the key to uniting the country politically, sign me up.
    - throw0101c 3y ago
      > Good point, although the decision to move forward with the case was made under the current administration. The President/Administration telling the AG what to move forward on (and what not to) is generally not a thing, and when it does happen, there are often headlines: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre * https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/18/william-barr-has-considered-resigning-over-trumps-involvement/4802249002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/18/will...
      - gnicholas 3y ago
        The President selects the AG. He doesn't then have to direct every single decision. It's well known in legal circles that changes in administration affect DOJ behavior. Wall Street knows this too — it's why certain stocks pop after election surprises.
- oatmeal1 3y ago
  You could make the asymmetric information argument for any defendant.
EasyMark 3y ago
it's quite often shot down by judges as well too because of the vagueries in laws, it's a two edge sword and you're commonly at the whim of the trial jurisdiction. Just look at recent 5th circuit vs most other circuits.

gnicholas 3y ago

Yes, there is a lot of discretion in what cases are brought, and if a new administration comes in next year this may be dismissed/deprioritized. Still, I doubt Tim or other Apple employees will be making many donations to Biden's challenger! (Shareholders might be a different story.) Even if the case continues, it will be a challenge to win. Apple has asymmetric information and knows what they can use to defend the various allegations.

kccqzy 3y ago
Biden's challenger was in office at the time when the Justice Department started the investigation.
- gnicholas 3y ago
  Good point, although the decision to move forward with the case was made under the current administration.
  - ysavir 3y ago
    Well damn, if ending Apple's monopoly is the key to uniting the country politically, sign me up.
  - throw0101c 3y ago
    > Good point, although the decision to move forward with the case was made under the current administration. The President/Administration telling the AG what to move forward on (and what not to) is generally not a thing, and when it does happen, there are often headlines: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre * https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/18/william-barr-has-considered-resigning-over-trumps-involvement/4802249002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/18/will...
    - gnicholas 3y ago
      The President selects the AG. He doesn't then have to direct every single decision. It's well known in legal circles that changes in administration affect DOJ behavior. Wall Street knows this too — it's why certain stocks pop after election surprises.
oatmeal1 3y ago
You could make the asymmetric information argument for any defendant.

EasyMark 3y ago

it's quite often shot down by judges as well too because of the vagueries in laws, it's a two edge sword and you're commonly at the whim of the trial jurisdiction. Just look at recent 5th circuit vs most other circuits.