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Finally. It was about time that this would happen. Google got one anti-trust lawsuit, Meta should get another one (by owning too many social networks with bill

by rvz 3y ago

Finally. It was about time that this would happen. Google got one anti-trust lawsuit, Meta should get another one (by owning too many social networks with billions of users each) and after the failed anti-trust lawsuit that Epic tried to sue Apple under, this time the DOJ is finally going after Apple. Good. I'm really looking forward to the United States v. Apple Inc. anti-trust lawsuit that will actually make some changes to stop the 30% commission scam once and for all. After that, now do Microsoft (again)

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jwells89 3y ago
Google could use another pass to put a stop to their aggressive cross-promotion of Chrome, which is difficult if not impossible to compete with given how many Google products people use on a daily basis. Every time I visit Google, YouTube, etc with a fresh non-Chrome browser profile there’s a barrage of, “Download Chrome!” popups to dismiss, not to mention how Google iOS apps use link taps as opportunities to promote Chrome or all the random third party Windows software that has Chrome bundled with it.
nottorp 3y ago
> that will actually make some changes to stop the 30% commission scam once and for all. No. The change they should make is to allow sideloading. I don't care if the developer pays less than 30% when Apple can still censor what I run on my phone.
- screamingninja 3y ago
  > I don't care if the developer pays I think you, as the consumer, are the one who pays.
  - nottorp 3y ago
    > I think you, as the consumer, are the one who pays. And you somehow think reducing the commission to, say, 5%, will reduce prices?
    - screamingninja 3y ago
      I cannot say that it will, though in theory the businesses that want to compete would want to pass the savings to the consumers while staying profitable. But I can say with certainty that increasing the commission will increase the prices. Companies do not pay this fee/commission out of their own pockets.
      - nottorp 3y ago
        > in theory the businesses that want to compete would want to pass the savings to the consumers while staying profitable This is the app market, not the wheat flour market. Most of the time the apps aren't interchangeable. At least those that provide some value *. So... they will charge what the market will bear. Do you see Apple reducing their commission from 30% to 5% and changing the 0.99 price to 0.79? I don't. * ok, not flashlight and TODO apps. Edit: actually Apple reduced the commission from 30% to 15% for some apps. Did you see any app at 0.84 in the app store? Didn't think so...
        screamingninja 3y ago
        You make some terrible straw man arguments.
  - samatman 3y ago
    Correct. I, the consumer, see a price on an app, and either I pay it, or I don't. How the pie gets divvied up is no skin off my nose. None of my business.

by rvz 3y ago

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jwells89 3y ago

Google could use another pass to put a stop to their aggressive cross-promotion of Chrome, which is difficult if not impossible to compete with given how many Google products people use on a daily basis. Every time I visit Google, YouTube, etc with a fresh non-Chrome browser profile there’s a barrage of, “Download Chrome!” popups to dismiss, not to mention how Google iOS apps use link taps as opportunities to promote Chrome or all the random third party Windows software that has Chrome bundled with it.

nottorp 3y ago

> that will actually make some changes to stop the 30% commission scam once and for all. No. The change they should make is to allow sideloading. I don't care if the developer pays less than 30% when Apple can still censor what I run on my phone.

screamingninja 3y ago
> I don't care if the developer pays I think you, as the consumer, are the one who pays.
- nottorp 3y ago
  > I think you, as the consumer, are the one who pays. And you somehow think reducing the commission to, say, 5%, will reduce prices?
  - screamingninja 3y ago
    I cannot say that it will, though in theory the businesses that want to compete would want to pass the savings to the consumers while staying profitable. But I can say with certainty that increasing the commission will increase the prices. Companies do not pay this fee/commission out of their own pockets.
    - nottorp 3y ago
      > in theory the businesses that want to compete would want to pass the savings to the consumers while staying profitable This is the app market, not the wheat flour market. Most of the time the apps aren't interchangeable. At least those that provide some value *. So... they will charge what the market will bear. Do you see Apple reducing their commission from 30% to 5% and changing the 0.99 price to 0.79? I don't. * ok, not flashlight and TODO apps. Edit: actually Apple reduced the commission from 30% to 15% for some apps. Did you see any app at 0.84 in the app store? Didn't think so...
      - screamingninja 3y ago
        You make some terrible straw man arguments.
- samatman 3y ago
  Correct. I, the consumer, see a price on an app, and either I pay it, or I don't. How the pie gets divvied up is no skin off my nose. None of my business.