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Yea, i stopped using it from mobile entirely when that happened. I expect them to kill `old.reddit` soon any that'll be the end of that for me. ATProto is far m

Yea, i stopped using it from mobile entirely when that happened. I expect them to kill `old.reddit` soon any that'll be the end of that for me. ATProto is far more interesting to me, if/when someone makes a link aggregator for them rather than the Twitter style UI of Bluesky. ActivityPub will do in a pinch, if needed. (i already tested this idea, for ~60 days with zero Reddit)

mrmlz 3y ago
Modern Reddit is such a broken experience especially on the web. And honestly the community has degraded over the last couple of years.
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- pixl97 3y ago
  And the number of bots is out of control. I'm guessing they are accounts that pretend to be regular users by copying other user comments on the same topic and posting them days/weeks later when the topic gets brought up again. Then I assume at some point in the future they'll be sold off to spammers or manipulators of some kind.
WA9ACE 3y ago
Old style interface on a development focused lemmy instance has completely replaced reddit usage for me This is the equivalent of /r/all across the lemmy world https://old.programming.dev/?sort=Active&listingType=All https://old.programming.dev/?sort=Active&listingType=All
- europeanNyan 3y ago
  It looks like Old Reddit, but the content is New Reddit. It's just a stream of political dreck and virtue signalling. I really don't need to see Trump in every second post and read about people who hate cars, meat, Twitter, Reddit, etc.
  - Goronmon 3y ago
    I really don't need to see Trump in every second post and read about people who hate cars, meat, Twitter, Reddit, etc. Exactly. All I see online is people talking about politics, their jobs, their families, their hobbies, the environment, technology, etc.
  - piaste 3y ago
    Yeah, Lemmy is a pretty decent platform but the suggestion of browsing "All" is godawful, if one is looking for something closer to pre-smartphone internet. You need to curate your homepage a bit to get a good Lemmy experience. The tech side may be like Reddit, but the human aspect is more like a couple dozen vBulletin forums rolled into one. Some of the instances are (imo) full of straight-up insane and, worse, perpetually angry people. Some instance admins may be power-hungry and prone to drama - but you might not care if the only subreddit you follow from their instance is c/jazz and you just click on Youtube/Spotify links from it. Is it a pain? Yes. But I still prefer to deal with a couple dozen weirdos than with a single billion-dollar company.
    - dingnuts 3y ago
      >Some of the instances are (imo) full of straight-up insane and, worse, perpetually angry people This has been true for every instance of every Fedi thing I've ever tried to use or thought of using. And many instances block single-user instances so forget about running your own unless you only want to interact with the absolute fringest nutjob basement-dwellers -- because the "mainstream" Fedi is already fringe. I once had the dumb impulse to reply to someone who was mad about fluoride in drinking water with "you probably get more fluoride from your toothpaste" and I deleted my account as I started to receive arguments about brushing your teeth, as it made me realize exactly the kind of people I would be interacting with on this network. Honestly I think this is grows out of the incentives for operating a homeserver. There's a negative financial incentive so you must have some other kind of motivator, likely a desire for influence or power.
      - mardef 3y ago
        Similarly, I replied to someone suggesting they pay for a service and I received multiple replies suggesting I kill myself. This wasn't on some random Marxist community, this was on one of the big tech communities.
- account42 3y ago
  How's the built in censorship and cultural bias with Lemmy?
  - runjake 3y ago
    It definitely seems to lean left, from my (American) view. That might be because most of the western world would classify as left by my (American) standards? There have been some right-wing and far-right instances, but they seem to get de-federated by the majority. Hope that helps.
    - concordDance 3y ago
      "Left" and "right" tend to decoher once you move outside a particular political space into another (e.g. one country to another). The UK right wing party introduced gay marriage, but even the most left wing part of the country (Scotland) isn't particularly progressive (e.g. majority disapproval of allowing gender self identification to 16). Similarly, trying to judge the UK on racial issues by US standards gets quite confusing. The common British attitude towards Romani would make even the confederate flag wavers of Texas call them racists. On the other hand, there's full support for plenty of state intervention and state support, e.g. pretty much no one says they want to abolish the NHS.
      - antod 3y ago
        > Similarly, trying to judge the UK on racial issues by US standards gets quite confusing. The common British attitude towards Romani would make even the confederate flag wavers of Texas call them racists. Not directly related to Romani treatment in Britain (not familiar enough with that to judge), but sometimes I wonder if the english language needs better words to distinguish between race based bigotry and culture based bigotry. eg often I notice for a person there will be a difference in how they treat/view "acclimatised" descendants of immigrants vs new immigrants due to being ostensibly the same race but different culturally. Of course racists will still have bigotry for both groups.
        3y ago
- jcrash 3y ago
  Thanks for this link, this is great
account42 3y ago
> I expect them to kill `old.reddit` soon They have already started to redirect direct image links to the new reddit garbage which has stopped my usage for reddit for entertainment when bored.
- agmater 3y ago
  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/load-reddit-images-directly/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/load-reddit-i... This solved that for me, but yeah it seems inevitable that all these user hostile decisions make the site unusable.
giancarlostoro 3y ago
What kills me about old vs new reddit is feature parity is just not there. There's also a huge lack of tooling for reddit modding, but what really kills me is how long new reddit has been in development for and still no feature parity. Instead of making old reddit an archive on github, they should have made new reddits front-end open. I'm sure it would be miles ahead if the users were allowed to contribute like they once did with old reddit. I wonder how much money was spent to build new reddit. Feels like a dumpster fire.

mrmlz 3y ago

Modern Reddit is such a broken experience especially on the web. And honestly the community has degraded over the last couple of years.

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pixl97 3y ago
And the number of bots is out of control. I'm guessing they are accounts that pretend to be regular users by copying other user comments on the same topic and posting them days/weeks later when the topic gets brought up again. Then I assume at some point in the future they'll be sold off to spammers or manipulators of some kind.

WA9ACE 3y ago

Old style interface on a development focused lemmy instance has completely replaced reddit usage for me This is the equivalent of /r/all across the lemmy world https://old.programming.dev/?sort=Active&listingType=All https://old.programming.dev/?sort=Active&listingType=All

europeanNyan 3y ago
It looks like Old Reddit, but the content is New Reddit. It's just a stream of political dreck and virtue signalling. I really don't need to see Trump in every second post and read about people who hate cars, meat, Twitter, Reddit, etc.
- Goronmon 3y ago
  I really don't need to see Trump in every second post and read about people who hate cars, meat, Twitter, Reddit, etc. Exactly. All I see online is people talking about politics, their jobs, their families, their hobbies, the environment, technology, etc.
- piaste 3y ago
  Yeah, Lemmy is a pretty decent platform but the suggestion of browsing "All" is godawful, if one is looking for something closer to pre-smartphone internet. You need to curate your homepage a bit to get a good Lemmy experience. The tech side may be like Reddit, but the human aspect is more like a couple dozen vBulletin forums rolled into one. Some of the instances are (imo) full of straight-up insane and, worse, perpetually angry people. Some instance admins may be power-hungry and prone to drama - but you might not care if the only subreddit you follow from their instance is c/jazz and you just click on Youtube/Spotify links from it. Is it a pain? Yes. But I still prefer to deal with a couple dozen weirdos than with a single billion-dollar company.
  - dingnuts 3y ago
    >Some of the instances are (imo) full of straight-up insane and, worse, perpetually angry people This has been true for every instance of every Fedi thing I've ever tried to use or thought of using. And many instances block single-user instances so forget about running your own unless you only want to interact with the absolute fringest nutjob basement-dwellers -- because the "mainstream" Fedi is already fringe. I once had the dumb impulse to reply to someone who was mad about fluoride in drinking water with "you probably get more fluoride from your toothpaste" and I deleted my account as I started to receive arguments about brushing your teeth, as it made me realize exactly the kind of people I would be interacting with on this network. Honestly I think this is grows out of the incentives for operating a homeserver. There's a negative financial incentive so you must have some other kind of motivator, likely a desire for influence or power.
    - mardef 3y ago
      Similarly, I replied to someone suggesting they pay for a service and I received multiple replies suggesting I kill myself. This wasn't on some random Marxist community, this was on one of the big tech communities.
account42 3y ago
How's the built in censorship and cultural bias with Lemmy?
- runjake 3y ago
  It definitely seems to lean left, from my (American) view. That might be because most of the western world would classify as left by my (American) standards? There have been some right-wing and far-right instances, but they seem to get de-federated by the majority. Hope that helps.
  - concordDance 3y ago
    "Left" and "right" tend to decoher once you move outside a particular political space into another (e.g. one country to another). The UK right wing party introduced gay marriage, but even the most left wing part of the country (Scotland) isn't particularly progressive (e.g. majority disapproval of allowing gender self identification to 16). Similarly, trying to judge the UK on racial issues by US standards gets quite confusing. The common British attitude towards Romani would make even the confederate flag wavers of Texas call them racists. On the other hand, there's full support for plenty of state intervention and state support, e.g. pretty much no one says they want to abolish the NHS.
    - antod 3y ago
      > Similarly, trying to judge the UK on racial issues by US standards gets quite confusing. The common British attitude towards Romani would make even the confederate flag wavers of Texas call them racists. Not directly related to Romani treatment in Britain (not familiar enough with that to judge), but sometimes I wonder if the english language needs better words to distinguish between race based bigotry and culture based bigotry. eg often I notice for a person there will be a difference in how they treat/view "acclimatised" descendants of immigrants vs new immigrants due to being ostensibly the same race but different culturally. Of course racists will still have bigotry for both groups.
      - 3y ago
jcrash 3y ago
Thanks for this link, this is great

account42 3y ago

> I expect them to kill `old.reddit` soon They have already started to redirect direct image links to the new reddit garbage which has stopped my usage for reddit for entertainment when bored.

agmater 3y ago
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/load-reddit-images-directly/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/load-reddit-i... This solved that for me, but yeah it seems inevitable that all these user hostile decisions make the site unusable.

giancarlostoro 3y ago

What kills me about old vs new reddit is feature parity is just not there. There's also a huge lack of tooling for reddit modding, but what really kills me is how long new reddit has been in development for and still no feature parity. Instead of making old reddit an archive on github, they should have made new reddits front-end open. I'm sure it would be miles ahead if the users were allowed to contribute like they once did with old reddit. I wonder how much money was spent to build new reddit. Feels like a dumpster fire.