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I thought some teams at Google were dogfooding Angular for many years now?

nness 3y ago
I can say from experience that Google requires third-parties use Angular when they are developing experiences on behalf of Google — i.e. through their agency partners.
brianzelip 3y ago
Lots have been [0,1] 0, https://changelog.com/jsparty/310 https://changelog.com/jsparty/310 1, https://changelog.com/jsparty/312 https://changelog.com/jsparty/312
- throwaway290 3y ago
  Yeah. I distinctly remember Google using it itself a big motivator to go with AngularJS and then Angular in side projects, so I was not wrong...
danpalmer 3y ago
Basically all web frontends I've seen here are either Angular or Wiz, depending on latency requirements, or they're some legacy technology that is being moved to Angular or Wiz.
- montgomeryburns 3y ago
  Any tips on preparing to work with Wiz as an incoming intern. I heard its identical to Stimulus: https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/ https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/
FreeTheWeb 3y ago
Wiz is a web framework at google that is abysmal to work with. It’s still living in 2010, it’s all Java backend based, the build times are unbearable, and the templating, Soy, is some Java engineer who loves curly braces too much. It’s a lot of magic and all convoluted, it’s pathetic a company this large has this as their main offering, JSX is a positive move but it’s still lipstick on a pig as it’s not really JSX but just three Java templates under the hood for now. Signals aren’t the panacea they keep saying as they simply don’t scale in big apps since the data flow is all over the place. Googlers use Angular at google because despite its garbage size and developer experience, believe it or not, the dev experience is miles better than Wiz. It’s also nowhere near the most popular internal usage framework idk why they say that. It’s Wiz by far. And all this is because googlers just want React or Vue but are not allowed because they are “not sanctioned”. The same reason why you can’t SSR Angular at google, because Node isn’t even sanctioned. This is all just a Hail Mary by Angular because their NPM numbers are dropping and just got surpassed by Preact of all frameworks. My job skills are languishing at google because I’m writing Wiz and Angular all day
- renegade-otter 3y ago
  > My job skills are languishing at google because I’m writing Wiz and Angular all day Do people actually spend months prepping for Leetcode interviews to get the job? To improve tech skills? Or is it just the money? ;)
- montgomeryburns 3y ago
  Any tips on preparing to work with Wiz as an incoming intern. I heard its identical to Stimulus: https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/ https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/

I can say from experience that Google requires third-parties use Angular when they are developing experiences on behalf of Google — i.e. through their agency partners.

brianzelip 3y ago

Lots have been [0,1] 0, https://changelog.com/jsparty/310 https://changelog.com/jsparty/310 1, https://changelog.com/jsparty/312 https://changelog.com/jsparty/312

throwaway290 3y ago
Yeah. I distinctly remember Google using it itself a big motivator to go with AngularJS and then Angular in side projects, so I was not wrong...

danpalmer 3y ago

Basically all web frontends I've seen here are either Angular or Wiz, depending on latency requirements, or they're some legacy technology that is being moved to Angular or Wiz.

montgomeryburns 3y ago
Any tips on preparing to work with Wiz as an incoming intern. I heard its identical to Stimulus: https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/ https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/

FreeTheWeb 3y ago

Wiz is a web framework at google that is abysmal to work with. It’s still living in 2010, it’s all Java backend based, the build times are unbearable, and the templating, Soy, is some Java engineer who loves curly braces too much. It’s a lot of magic and all convoluted, it’s pathetic a company this large has this as their main offering, JSX is a positive move but it’s still lipstick on a pig as it’s not really JSX but just three Java templates under the hood for now. Signals aren’t the panacea they keep saying as they simply don’t scale in big apps since the data flow is all over the place. Googlers use Angular at google because despite its garbage size and developer experience, believe it or not, the dev experience is miles better than Wiz. It’s also nowhere near the most popular internal usage framework idk why they say that. It’s Wiz by far. And all this is because googlers just want React or Vue but are not allowed because they are “not sanctioned”. The same reason why you can’t SSR Angular at google, because Node isn’t even sanctioned. This is all just a Hail Mary by Angular because their NPM numbers are dropping and just got surpassed by Preact of all frameworks. My job skills are languishing at google because I’m writing Wiz and Angular all day

renegade-otter 3y ago
> My job skills are languishing at google because I’m writing Wiz and Angular all day Do people actually spend months prepping for Leetcode interviews to get the job? To improve tech skills? Or is it just the money? ;)
montgomeryburns 3y ago
Any tips on preparing to work with Wiz as an incoming intern. I heard its identical to Stimulus: https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/ https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/