Totally separate. I do think as opposing arguments get more extreme, it skews each side. Then someone in the middle can look extreme. There is just as strong

Totally separate. I do think as opposing arguments get more extreme, it skews each side. Then someone in the middle can look extreme. There is just as strong an ideology and religious fervor around 'carnivore', and 'keto' communities. Then when someone suggests eating some plants, they yell 'vegan'. And the more someone in the middle tries to argue 'no, really, you need some fiber', the more they yell back 'your vegan'. If the person in the middle starts arguing back, and siting studies, the extreme side starts viewing them as extreme, even if they are in the middle. Think the effect is called Overton Window. I would hope no vegan would argue against Kimchi. Kimchi is great.