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What do you think is more important to get along with a co-founder?

2 points by matteosb 3y ago

1) Vision alignment - 2) Values alignment - 3) Complementary skills - 4) Same commitment

calrain 3y ago
print(list(itertools.permutations([1, 2, 3, 4])))
- matteosb 3y ago
  there must be one that is more important than the others, long-term
  - calrain 3y ago
    Probably the one you didn't mention, compatible personalities. In my experience, the four listed traits are outcomes of compatible people working together.
    - matteosb 3y ago
      you're talking about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_type https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_type
dtagames 3y ago
People can change their vision, skills, and commitments. Values don't normally change except to be solidified as one gets older. Being an older person myself (and working for both myself and others in many different contexts), I would say alignment of values is the most important quality in any arrangement: business, personal, or otherwise. Friction over values can tear apart any kind of relationship. When you have values alignment, two people will naturally come to similar conclusions about what the overall outcome and goals should be. They'll also think of similar ways to solve problems and address issues, because those ways will align with their (shared) values. If it's discovered later that one person lacks values the other considers important, the partnership (or even the entire business) can be destroyed and this has happened many times in the tech industry.
caeril 3y ago
None of the above. I'm going with: 5. High IQ and conscientiousness 6. Good work ethic Vision and values can align, or they can meet in the middle. Either situation works. In my experience, incompetence and apathy in a co-founder is the death knell. You want Bertram Gilfoyle, not Russ Hanneman. "Personality" or "Values" are irrelevant in the matter of launching a product.
- dtagames 3y ago
  That's true, too! Certainly apathy and incompetence are deal killers. Re values alignment, I agree that meeting in the middle is the thing. That's the alignment I was referring to. It would be nearly impossible for all of one's values to align with anyone else.

2 points by matteosb 3y ago

1) Vision alignment - 2) Values alignment - 3) Complementary skills - 4) Same commitment

calrain 3y ago

print(list(itertools.permutations([1, 2, 3, 4])))

matteosb 3y ago
there must be one that is more important than the others, long-term
- calrain 3y ago
  Probably the one you didn't mention, compatible personalities. In my experience, the four listed traits are outcomes of compatible people working together.
  - matteosb 3y ago
    you're talking about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_type https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_type

dtagames 3y ago

People can change their vision, skills, and commitments. Values don't normally change except to be solidified as one gets older. Being an older person myself (and working for both myself and others in many different contexts), I would say alignment of values is the most important quality in any arrangement: business, personal, or otherwise. Friction over values can tear apart any kind of relationship. When you have values alignment, two people will naturally come to similar conclusions about what the overall outcome and goals should be. They'll also think of similar ways to solve problems and address issues, because those ways will align with their (shared) values. If it's discovered later that one person lacks values the other considers important, the partnership (or even the entire business) can be destroyed and this has happened many times in the tech industry.

caeril 3y ago

None of the above. I'm going with: 5. High IQ and conscientiousness 6. Good work ethic Vision and values can align, or they can meet in the middle. Either situation works. In my experience, incompetence and apathy in a co-founder is the death knell. You want Bertram Gilfoyle, not Russ Hanneman. "Personality" or "Values" are irrelevant in the matter of launching a product.

dtagames 3y ago
That's true, too! Certainly apathy and incompetence are deal killers. Re values alignment, I agree that meeting in the middle is the thing. That's the alignment I was referring to. It would be nearly impossible for all of one's values to align with anyone else.