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It should be a big story, as should be the fact that Russia invaded a peaceful neighboring country and keeps murdering, raping and torturing its residents. But
by jwr 3y ago
It should be a big story, as should be the fact that Russia invaded a peaceful neighboring country and keeps murdering, raping and torturing its residents.
But somehow much of the world pretends not to notice and only does whatever is convenient at the moment (buy Russian oil/gas, do business in Russia, stay "neutral", etc). I find it incredibly depressing, I thought that surely in the 2020s our civilization would have progressed further.
Russia will play the slowly boiled frog game to their advantage — GPS jamming is just the beginning. We will likely soon see further small incursions, each one ever so slightly larger than the previous one. And we'll hear Mr Scholz say something about doing something, but we won't see him actually do anything. Mr Macron will use grand words and do nothing as well. Austria will "declare neutrality" (easy to do when you have other countries as buffers from the aggressor).
As someone currently living in the EU close to Ukraine, I find all this very sad.
- mistermann 3y ago[flagged]
- pc86 3y agoI haven't the slightest idea what point you're trying to make, except perhaps arguing that the GP should for some reason go to Ukraine and fight if they think the invasion was wrong?
- remram 3y agoYes, if that's what they expect "the world" to do lest it "only does whatever is convenient".
- mistermann 3y ago>> But somehow much of the world pretends not to notice and only does whatever is convenient at the moment (buy Russian oil/gas, do business in Russia, stay "neutral", etc). I find it incredibly depressing, I thought that surely in the 2020s our civilization would have progressed further. > I haven't the slightest idea what point you're trying to make This human was criticizing other humans for "pretending", but they themselves are pretending (well, technically something more like engaging in ~hallucination, Naive Realism based cognition, Meme Magic, etc). They desire and recommend that others (the members of their various outgroups I suspect, purely coincidentally) think better, but if one was to ask them to do the same, they would assert that that is a false accusation / invalid request (because their thinking "is" without substantial flaw, ~"thinking perfectly is stupid, why are you suggesting it lol", not realizing that no such suggestion was made). ~All humans behave this way (I dare you to respond, so a demonstration can be made that proves my point (though it would be fairly pointless outside of having fun, at least at this point in time)), due to the conditioning we receive from birth, and every single day of our lives, all without our realization. I was kinda making a joke, but it is a joke in at least two ways.
- tim333 3y agoI find it rather sad too, especially the US politics at the moment where it seems one man basically can block the political system and let Putin win.
- ipython 3y agoThere are plenty of Russian apologists in the US as well, unfortunately
- resters 3y agoCheck out the arguments made by John Mearshimer. His heart breaks for the Ukrainian people but he is focused on US policy missteps (because he is American and lives in the US) as the root cause of the problem.
- ipython 3y agoNo offense to you but that man’s argument has strong “I beat my wife because she deserves it” vibes. The US has made more than its fair share of policy missteps. But to try and argue that the actions of the US somehow “forced” Russia to invade its neighbor and former satellite state to rid it of “nazis” (Putin’s quote not mine) is absurd.
- stracer 3y agoCheck out this analysis of Mr. Mearsheimer's arguments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE-t2ePFEDc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE-t2ePFEDc
- zo1 3y agoThe news is not able to keep maintaining the level of outrage at the war. They don't even try in a lot of cases because I think deep down people don't care. That doesn't mean people don't care about the people though. Human suffering is always bad.