4 ms·

From what i know germany has banned plenty of pro palestinian protests. Doing security checks on men that look arab on the streets. Banning the palestinian fla

From what i know germany has banned plenty of pro palestinian protests. Doing security checks on men that look arab on the streets. Banning the palestinian flag.

theGeatZhopa 3y ago
You do not take into account that a demonstration must be peaceful and is not for spreading hate and violence. If it's not, then it may be forbidden to even start. But Each one is free to call up a court after a 'not allowed'. Often, the decision to forbid is Undone by law ruling. Each demonstration must be registered with guys who is responsible, with a plan how to sustain the public peace and everything around that. Of course, spontaneous demonstrations are possible too. If you're more than one, you can just sit on the street and say "demonstration". You also can gather in some point - but it must be spontaneous. If it's planned, then there are rules to adhere to. The ones which has been forbidden have been organized by Islamic organizations which are under observation by themselves - not because they're arabic, but because they are against the german laws and postulate sharia and the things like depression of woman and so on.. Germany is a free state of a lot of people from different cultures. No sharia, no hate against woman, no nothing, but peaceful living alongside each other. Pro Palestine demos here had a special taste. The guys who decide if ok or not ok look for the dangerousness: The pro Palestine demonstrators (mostly Arabic) called death to all Jews. They raised ISIS flags, had been aggressive to bypassers and the police. Some guys participating beaten up german Jews, the kids if such believes are getting more violent in the school to other kids, like it's haram for girls to speak to boys and if you're Jewish - one have fear beaten up to death. The synagogues in here has been attacked that much they needed help by the police. I'm not an Jew or Arabic, but I, too, say: NO! That's not a demonstration covered by the rules. That's pure hate and violence. There's no place in Germany for that. We're not in Palestina or other states where such is possible. We're a country where everyone try to come along and to live peacefully with each other. So, if you like to demonstrate pro Palestina - be peaceful. Than it's not a problem. Like the other not forbidden pro Palestina demonstrations show :)
- wara23arish 3y ago
  I have seen plenty of german news falsely attributing arabic phrases as isis chants/flags etc.. It’s happening out in the open. Orientalism is still alive and thriving. Calling for israel to stop its genocide is considered hate speech in germany. Even calling israel an apartheid state is. I say No to the constant arming of israel that has killed +10K children. The people protesting dont care about whether israel is jewish or not fyi. The guilt stems from Germany’s atrocities in ww2 and it seems you’re projecting your own insecurities/guilt onto arabs. Its sadly ironic cause germany is a big reason we’re in this mess :)
  - theGeatZhopa 3y ago
    I'm able to speak German, your able to speak Arabic. I understand a part of the cha(n)ts because they're in German. And when I hear dead to Jews (in German) and I see the ISIS flags, then there is nothing to talk about. If I see synagogues being inked with paint, the people leaving are spitted on.. then there is nothing to talk. When there are reports of Jewish students being hunted and beaten on different campuses, when pupils report that. When teacher calling the police because the Arabic pupils are going wild because of the Jews and Israel - then there is nothing to talk about. Absolutely nothing. I'm with you that killings of Israel is not ok (if it can be said like not ok - I don't know an English word that is even more not ok then not ok.) Also what Israel is doing in Gaza all the time, the illegal settlement and the nazi-settlers that are now even sanctioned by the EU like the nazi-russians.. is not ok, too. That is all out of question. But the Problem is the Hamas. That's the problem. And the Hisbollah. Actually. The arabic thinking "Israel is bad and needs to be extinguished from the Earth's surface" is the ONLY problem and is very bad. If you think outside the box about it, it's the same what's happening in Ukraine and Russia: With Ukraine being like "Russia is bad. We want Nato. We want Europe." - that gived Putin a tool in his hand to pull the Russians people onto his side and start a war which is supported by the majority of Russians (I'm born Russian and it's utterly stupid what's happening there!!!) The same happens in Israel. The Hamas and Arabic thinking give the Israeli hardliners a tool and the people of Israel support this.. So, if you want a change there, stop being like that. Stop cherish the killers and non humans of the Hamas. Stop chants of death to Israel. Slowly the Israeli hardliners will lose support. As one might not imagine, but in Israel there are also demonstrations against Israels doings.. so, you need the Israeli people to stop this. And exactly this kind off "I say No to the constant arming of israel that has killed +10K children. The people protesting dont care about whether israel is jewish or not fyi" demonstrations are happening in Germany. The one's forbidden are rightly forbidden for the named reasons. Here the Arabic ones are searched on the street. That's true. But the Arabic looking ones (beard, national clothes, woman in behind can't see anything because of the trad. clothing) are the ones who did suicide attacks and killed to much of German people. If you don't see a link in here, why they are always suspected - then you have your answers here: because they don't accept the German laws, people, living, thinking, believes. It's all a sin for them. So for our own security, we need measures like that. Of course, we also have Arabic people who are contemporary in thinking and also successful on all parts of live and work. They never will be stopped or searched. Germans aren't xenophobic. We have a few xenophobic ones, but this are stupid people and not to be considered Germans (assholes). And with the assholes too, their fears and their thinking is much supported by the carried out and planed suicide attacks and (just yesterday's) criminal statistics showing that each 3rd criminal case like rape has been done by a foreigner/help-seeking african or muslim (syrians and iraqis the most). So all the hate and violence spreaded mirrors back. The same in Israel. It's true that WW2 thing and Germans "no, we are not in the position to criticize" is a bad behavior. Which doesn't mean support. It's just a "no we are looking away" in my eyes. Not a sign of "..go on..". USA started to be louder on this.. a lot of other countries started to be loud on this. They started to help, because what Israel is doing there is a humanitarian crisis. You can't call it genocide. Genocide would it be when they would concentrate on Palestinians, but they try to mitigate the hardliners of Hamas, which as we've seen are a big insecurity for Israel. Stop Hamas, you'll stop Israel. It's easy like this. There's no guilty filled thinking from my side. I'm a neutral person. Thinking. Understanding why is something happening. That's my way of conflict resolving. If one is do no good, then he will get it back twice so he learns that and do not forget.. (it's the Russian in me haha) So, there is no big reason to why demonstrate here or elsewhere, when the problem is utterly in different places. What's started there, needs to be ended there. For both sides. I think it's not ironic that Germany is a big reason you're in this mess. It's all done by yourself. Germany never said "go on Israel. Let's illegally settle on Palestine" - infact they too criticize Israel for that. There is a lot of no-good in Israel. Where criticism is needed, criticism is brought up. If you wanted to say because Germany couldn't solve the Jewish problem in WW2 so now we're having this big mess - i don't even dare to think you could've meant it that way. Then you're part of the problem and problems need to be resolved before it can get better. Change your view on the world and you change the world. Peace.

From what i know germany has banned plenty of pro palestinian protests. Doing security checks on men that look arab on the streets. Banning the palestinian flag.

theGeatZhopa 3y ago

You do not take into account that a demonstration must be peaceful and is not for spreading hate and violence. If it's not, then it may be forbidden to even start. But Each one is free to call up a court after a 'not allowed'. Often, the decision to forbid is Undone by law ruling. Each demonstration must be registered with guys who is responsible, with a plan how to sustain the public peace and everything around that. Of course, spontaneous demonstrations are possible too. If you're more than one, you can just sit on the street and say "demonstration". You also can gather in some point - but it must be spontaneous. If it's planned, then there are rules to adhere to. The ones which has been forbidden have been organized by Islamic organizations which are under observation by themselves - not because they're arabic, but because they are against the german laws and postulate sharia and the things like depression of woman and so on.. Germany is a free state of a lot of people from different cultures. No sharia, no hate against woman, no nothing, but peaceful living alongside each other. Pro Palestine demos here had a special taste. The guys who decide if ok or not ok look for the dangerousness: The pro Palestine demonstrators (mostly Arabic) called death to all Jews. They raised ISIS flags, had been aggressive to bypassers and the police. Some guys participating beaten up german Jews, the kids if such believes are getting more violent in the school to other kids, like it's haram for girls to speak to boys and if you're Jewish - one have fear beaten up to death. The synagogues in here has been attacked that much they needed help by the police. I'm not an Jew or Arabic, but I, too, say: NO! That's not a demonstration covered by the rules. That's pure hate and violence. There's no place in Germany for that. We're not in Palestina or other states where such is possible. We're a country where everyone try to come along and to live peacefully with each other. So, if you like to demonstrate pro Palestina - be peaceful. Than it's not a problem. Like the other not forbidden pro Palestina demonstrations show :)

wara23arish 3y ago
I have seen plenty of german news falsely attributing arabic phrases as isis chants/flags etc.. It’s happening out in the open. Orientalism is still alive and thriving. Calling for israel to stop its genocide is considered hate speech in germany. Even calling israel an apartheid state is. I say No to the constant arming of israel that has killed +10K children. The people protesting dont care about whether israel is jewish or not fyi. The guilt stems from Germany’s atrocities in ww2 and it seems you’re projecting your own insecurities/guilt onto arabs. Its sadly ironic cause germany is a big reason we’re in this mess :)
- theGeatZhopa 3y ago
  I'm able to speak German, your able to speak Arabic. I understand a part of the cha(n)ts because they're in German. And when I hear dead to Jews (in German) and I see the ISIS flags, then there is nothing to talk about. If I see synagogues being inked with paint, the people leaving are spitted on.. then there is nothing to talk. When there are reports of Jewish students being hunted and beaten on different campuses, when pupils report that. When teacher calling the police because the Arabic pupils are going wild because of the Jews and Israel - then there is nothing to talk about. Absolutely nothing. I'm with you that killings of Israel is not ok (if it can be said like not ok - I don't know an English word that is even more not ok then not ok.) Also what Israel is doing in Gaza all the time, the illegal settlement and the nazi-settlers that are now even sanctioned by the EU like the nazi-russians.. is not ok, too. That is all out of question. But the Problem is the Hamas. That's the problem. And the Hisbollah. Actually. The arabic thinking "Israel is bad and needs to be extinguished from the Earth's surface" is the ONLY problem and is very bad. If you think outside the box about it, it's the same what's happening in Ukraine and Russia: With Ukraine being like "Russia is bad. We want Nato. We want Europe." - that gived Putin a tool in his hand to pull the Russians people onto his side and start a war which is supported by the majority of Russians (I'm born Russian and it's utterly stupid what's happening there!!!) The same happens in Israel. The Hamas and Arabic thinking give the Israeli hardliners a tool and the people of Israel support this.. So, if you want a change there, stop being like that. Stop cherish the killers and non humans of the Hamas. Stop chants of death to Israel. Slowly the Israeli hardliners will lose support. As one might not imagine, but in Israel there are also demonstrations against Israels doings.. so, you need the Israeli people to stop this. And exactly this kind off "I say No to the constant arming of israel that has killed +10K children. The people protesting dont care about whether israel is jewish or not fyi" demonstrations are happening in Germany. The one's forbidden are rightly forbidden for the named reasons. Here the Arabic ones are searched on the street. That's true. But the Arabic looking ones (beard, national clothes, woman in behind can't see anything because of the trad. clothing) are the ones who did suicide attacks and killed to much of German people. If you don't see a link in here, why they are always suspected - then you have your answers here: because they don't accept the German laws, people, living, thinking, believes. It's all a sin for them. So for our own security, we need measures like that. Of course, we also have Arabic people who are contemporary in thinking and also successful on all parts of live and work. They never will be stopped or searched. Germans aren't xenophobic. We have a few xenophobic ones, but this are stupid people and not to be considered Germans (assholes). And with the assholes too, their fears and their thinking is much supported by the carried out and planed suicide attacks and (just yesterday's) criminal statistics showing that each 3rd criminal case like rape has been done by a foreigner/help-seeking african or muslim (syrians and iraqis the most). So all the hate and violence spreaded mirrors back. The same in Israel. It's true that WW2 thing and Germans "no, we are not in the position to criticize" is a bad behavior. Which doesn't mean support. It's just a "no we are looking away" in my eyes. Not a sign of "..go on..". USA started to be louder on this.. a lot of other countries started to be loud on this. They started to help, because what Israel is doing there is a humanitarian crisis. You can't call it genocide. Genocide would it be when they would concentrate on Palestinians, but they try to mitigate the hardliners of Hamas, which as we've seen are a big insecurity for Israel. Stop Hamas, you'll stop Israel. It's easy like this. There's no guilty filled thinking from my side. I'm a neutral person. Thinking. Understanding why is something happening. That's my way of conflict resolving. If one is do no good, then he will get it back twice so he learns that and do not forget.. (it's the Russian in me haha) So, there is no big reason to why demonstrate here or elsewhere, when the problem is utterly in different places. What's started there, needs to be ended there. For both sides. I think it's not ironic that Germany is a big reason you're in this mess. It's all done by yourself. Germany never said "go on Israel. Let's illegally settle on Palestine" - infact they too criticize Israel for that. There is a lot of no-good in Israel. Where criticism is needed, criticism is brought up. If you wanted to say because Germany couldn't solve the Jewish problem in WW2 so now we're having this big mess - i don't even dare to think you could've meant it that way. Then you're part of the problem and problems need to be resolved before it can get better. Change your view on the world and you change the world. Peace.