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Then you remember they called Ukraine in NATO an existential threat, and wiped their butts with international treaties that were supposed to be much more set in
by jojobas 3y ago
Then you remember they called Ukraine in NATO an existential threat, and wiped their butts with international treaties that were supposed to be much more set in stone than some half-official nuclear doctrine.
However, this is all playing chicken. Whenever they were facing actual opposition, they backed down.
- cpursley 3y agoWhich threats and treaties, specifically? I don't have a great memory - so please share actual sources. Also, are you aware of this?: https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2019-09/news/us-completes-inf-treaty-withdrawal https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2019-09/news/us-completes-in...
- computerfriend 3y agoFor some speculative context: this is because of the "pivot to Asia" as the US does not have a strategic arms reduction treaty with China and is not intended to escalate the arms race with Russia (although that might be a side-effect).
- jojobas 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum As for INF, US withdrawal was a response to Russia testing infringing missiles first.
- cpursley 3y agoMaybe, but US pulled out first: https://www.npr.org/2019/02/05/691521600/russia-pulls-out-of-inf-treaty-in-response-to-u-s-move https://www.npr.org/2019/02/05/691521600/russia-pulls-out-of...
- stracer 3y agoPulling out of treaty is not as treacherous as claiming obeying the treaty, and not obeying it.
- TheOtherHobbes 3y agoHere are a few. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3503924-president-zelensky-russia-violated-about-400-international-treaties-since-2014.html https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3503924-president-...
- cpursley 3y agoThat is not an unbiased primary source in the slightest.
- hexxagone 3y agoIs BFMTV also biased when reporting words directly from the mouth of Piotr Tolstoi or are you just trolling ?
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- cpursley 3y agoIf people are claiming that a country is threatening nuclear war, they damn well better be able to back it up with something more than narrative-shaping sound bytes.
- glompers 3y agoHere's one. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum