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That’s not honest at all. That’s just a different set of talking points. “while society wants to see emissions reduced, nobody wants to pay for it.” Yeah, righ
by two_handfuls 3y ago
That’s not honest at all. That’s just a different set of talking points.
“while society wants to see emissions reduced, nobody wants to pay for it.” Yeah, right, oil is cheaper, of course.
- Biologist123 3y agoHe’s right in the sense that people, in today’s set up, don’t want to pay. But can we imagine a different choice architecture where people don’t mind giving up the black stuff?
- ItsMonkk 3y agoThis is just more talking points to confuse. The architecture that economists and climate scientists both agree will move the needle on this is a revenue neutral carbon tax. A revenue neutral carbon tax taxes carbon, and then returns 100% of that tax money back to people equally. Anyone who uses less than the average amount of carbon - which is a majority of the population - since the top users use so much, get paid in this scheme. People might not want to pay, but they don't have to. Excessive users, the non-majority, pay. People, on average, don't pay - they get paid. The architecture already exists, it's already law in certain countries, and anyone ignoring this fundamental reality is not being serious.
- stuaxo 3y agoCheaper because they don't pay for the externalities. It's their own profits they are talking about, amazing people fall for this.
- caminante 3y agoThey? What about us? What's stopping us from passing punitive and progressive taxes on their scope 3 GHG emissions?
- ykonstant 3y agoThe fact that we are not passing the laws, elected representatives are. There is a tremendous firewall between us and our representatives, and lobby systems are past the firewall.
- two_handfuls 3y agoThat’s what the fight is about and why industry pays big bucks to spread lies and distract us in fabricated culture wars. Eventually everyone will come to their senses and tax externalities. The question is how much damage will have been done until then.
- bamboozled 3y agoAustralia had a world leading emissions trading scheme about 15 years ago (??), it was destoyed the minute the business conservatives won the election. You might be right but there is a lot of opposition against stuff like this.
- caminante 3y agoThe argument stands. Forget O&G. Nobody wants to pay for full electrification, despite having readily available tech. You can't argue the opposite with a straight face. FWIW, the author conflates CO2 storage as enhanced oil recovery applications only.
- two_handfuls 3y agoThe argument says “emissions reduced”, not “full electrification.” And reducing emissions is cheaper than destroying the world we live in.
- caminante 3y agoHow much do you want to pay for zero/negative emissions?
- two_handfuls 3y agoreducing emissions is cheaper than destroying the world we live in.
- caminante 3y agoLOL. Don't get offended. You know that's not my question, and you also know I represented the author accurately (See "forget o&g")