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.NET Smart Components

30 points by soheilpro 3y ago

spawarotti 3y ago
I am especially excited for the Smart ComboBox: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-dotnet-smart-components/#smart-combobox https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-dotnet-sma... In general, I see the idea of semantic matching instead of textual matching as one of the great, pragmatic applications of the current technology. Somewhat related fun application of this concept is this: https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ (the combination outputs are generated by LLMs)
catmanjan 3y ago
Is it just me, or is using GPT overkill to deliver these features?
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  The features described seem of dubious general value, but don’t seem like things that would work without an LLM, especially the smart text area. (Smart ComboBox sounds like it might be more generally useful than the others.) But the point of these seems to be more of a solution looking for a problem than attempt to find an efficient solution to an identified problem. Or, rather, they are one of Microsoft’s many efforts as part of looking for a solution to their problem of “how to do we monetize our investment into AI technology” not a solution to customer problems.
  - wingman-jr 3y ago
    Fair point. But putting on my user hat, that Smart Paste sounds pretty handy if it works half decently. I'm thinking CRM entry use cases and the like.
    - nicklecompte 3y ago
      But if Smart Paste makes errors even 1% of the time then that would be astonishing from an LLM benchmark POV and still completely unacceptable from a CRM reliability POV. Nobody wants a data entry system where you have to fix 1 in 100 rows because the computer made an error.
  - cxr 3y ago
    This isn't particular to Microsoft. The current profusion of reaching attempts to tack AI onto everything following the popularity of LLM-based products fits the familiar arc of any hyped next big thing in tech. I encourage people to regularly browse HN stories and comments from N years ago to force yourself to confront the cultural obsessions of yesteryear that have faded from memory.
- 000ooo000 3y ago
  I'm thinking of all the ways this complicates running/maintaining a production application vs. the value gained, and it's not looking positive.
  - yungporko 3y ago
    that is not a ratio that microsoft ever think about
theflyingelvis 3y ago
Seems to me like a way for Microsoft to sell more azure services and compute time.

30 points by soheilpro 3y ago

I am especially excited for the Smart ComboBox: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-dotnet-smart-components/#smart-combobox https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-dotnet-sma... In general, I see the idea of semantic matching instead of textual matching as one of the great, pragmatic applications of the current technology. Somewhat related fun application of this concept is this: https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ (the combination outputs are generated by LLMs)

catmanjan 3y ago

Is it just me, or is using GPT overkill to deliver these features?

dragonwriter 3y ago
The features described seem of dubious general value, but don’t seem like things that would work without an LLM, especially the smart text area. (Smart ComboBox sounds like it might be more generally useful than the others.) But the point of these seems to be more of a solution looking for a problem than attempt to find an efficient solution to an identified problem. Or, rather, they are one of Microsoft’s many efforts as part of looking for a solution to their problem of “how to do we monetize our investment into AI technology” not a solution to customer problems.
- wingman-jr 3y ago
  Fair point. But putting on my user hat, that Smart Paste sounds pretty handy if it works half decently. I'm thinking CRM entry use cases and the like.
  - nicklecompte 3y ago
    But if Smart Paste makes errors even 1% of the time then that would be astonishing from an LLM benchmark POV and still completely unacceptable from a CRM reliability POV. Nobody wants a data entry system where you have to fix 1 in 100 rows because the computer made an error.
- cxr 3y ago
  This isn't particular to Microsoft. The current profusion of reaching attempts to tack AI onto everything following the popularity of LLM-based products fits the familiar arc of any hyped next big thing in tech. I encourage people to regularly browse HN stories and comments from N years ago to force yourself to confront the cultural obsessions of yesteryear that have faded from memory.
000ooo000 3y ago
I'm thinking of all the ways this complicates running/maintaining a production application vs. the value gained, and it's not looking positive.
- yungporko 3y ago
  that is not a ratio that microsoft ever think about

theflyingelvis 3y ago

Seems to me like a way for Microsoft to sell more azure services and compute time.