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This does not really seem to be about measuring the earth; it's about more accurate GNSS. Then if you have very accurate GNSS you can also get more accuracy in
by amanda99 3y ago
This does not really seem to be about measuring the earth; it's about more accurate GNSS. Then if you have very accurate GNSS you can also get more accuracy in the ITRF.
Also to add context: there are many hurdles to hitting a 1mm accuracy for a satellite based positioning service.
One can already achieve accuracy of a few cm, but it's a painful process. You basically place a receiver somewhere, keep it there for a few hours, then download the pseudoranges, and post-process on a computer. In post-processing you correct for ionosphere error and satellite ephemerides (the satellites broadcast their rough location and clock readings, but you can download much more accurate data for these later to get a much better idea of where the satellites were). You need to do post-processing after some delay, because ionosphere readings and satellite ephemerides are not available immediately (the accuracy increases as you wait longer!).
You can also extend this with what's called "Precise Point Positioning" (PPP) using one ground-station that broadcasts an extra signal to moving receivers nearby, so there are ways to get higher accuracy on moving receivers, but it's still painful.
So probably 1mm will come soon to fixed ITRF monitoring stations (basically the ITRF tries to track tectonic movements, etc as those are at the mm level), but it's very far from coming to drones or cars.
- _kulang 3y agoPPP doesn’t utilise ground stations, and to achieve cm accuracy, you need to utilise phase information and solve the ambiguity problem 1mm accuracy almost certainly relies on ionosphere and troposphere observations at high temporal and spatial frequency. The process of post processing is essentially correct, but there is a point at which the ionosphere solution won’t get better without an increase in density of observations
- amanda99 3y agoAh thanks for the corrections, I guess RTK is what uses the ground station/mobile receiver concept.
- kjkjadksj 3y agoCould you track satellites by imaging them from earth? Some are visible to the naked eye at night. It seems like that would be instant and very accurate data.
- sgtnoodle 3y agoI believe that's how satellites are tracked at all? Rather than use visible light, though, tracking stations most certainly use radar, and probably highly directional antennas.
- BenjiWiebe 3y agoI think they are actually measured with lasers, IIRC. Did a lot of research about GNSS when setting up an RTK base station, and used PPP to get the initial location.