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Wait, you have no "inner voice" at all? I don't understand. Thought experiment: You go to a wall and there is a picture hanging on the wall. You like the pi

Wait, you have no "inner voice" at all? I don't understand. Thought experiment: You go to a wall and there is a picture hanging on the wall. You like the picture. Can you "say" in your head without using your voice/mouth "I like this picture"? If you have to use your voice, can you mimic the tongue movement without moving your mouth and "hear" the words without making a sound?

fellerts 3y ago
I can conjure up a voice in my head and make it say anything I want, such as "I like this picture", but it's a contrived and unnatural thing for me to do. It takes effort and "takes over" my whole brain. If a picture on the wall catches my eye, I will just enjoy it. Maybe that's why I struggle to answer "oh, what do you like about this picture?", because nothing about my experience had any relation to words at all. I normally don't talk very much, maybe that's why? Maybe my though process is further removed from language than that of most other people?
NathanKP 3y ago
For me it's like my head has a large cluster of art that I've seen, all organized. It is the "memory palace" basically, if you've heard of that approach to memorizing things. Except my memory palace is very, very large, and it has an area for art that I've seen. If I appreciate a piece of art then it goes into my memory palace collection in a room that groups it together with other similar pieces of art that I had a similar appreciation for. As I appreciate the piece of art my memory palace branches out from there in many directions. I'm recalling other similar pieces of art (how does this art rank compared to other pieces I've appreciated). I'm recalling other pieces of art by the same artist (how did this art compare to their other works). I'm recalling similar artists of the time period (how did this work compare to art by contemporary artists). I'm imagining the techniques that were used to make the art, whether dramatic and physical (splashes of paint in a modern art piece) or precise and delicate (such as the fine brush strokes). This is the process of appreciation I feel. Basically, the "I like this picture" is a very visual experience for me, not a vocal experience at all. If I did not like the picture then I just look at it, have an internal feeling of "meh" or "boredom" and do not put any effort into memorization or related recall and connectivity of the memory.
crag-jene 3y ago
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fellerts 3y ago

I can conjure up a voice in my head and make it say anything I want, such as "I like this picture", but it's a contrived and unnatural thing for me to do. It takes effort and "takes over" my whole brain. If a picture on the wall catches my eye, I will just enjoy it. Maybe that's why I struggle to answer "oh, what do you like about this picture?", because nothing about my experience had any relation to words at all. I normally don't talk very much, maybe that's why? Maybe my though process is further removed from language than that of most other people?

NathanKP 3y ago

For me it's like my head has a large cluster of art that I've seen, all organized. It is the "memory palace" basically, if you've heard of that approach to memorizing things. Except my memory palace is very, very large, and it has an area for art that I've seen. If I appreciate a piece of art then it goes into my memory palace collection in a room that groups it together with other similar pieces of art that I had a similar appreciation for. As I appreciate the piece of art my memory palace branches out from there in many directions. I'm recalling other similar pieces of art (how does this art rank compared to other pieces I've appreciated). I'm recalling other pieces of art by the same artist (how did this art compare to their other works). I'm recalling similar artists of the time period (how did this work compare to art by contemporary artists). I'm imagining the techniques that were used to make the art, whether dramatic and physical (splashes of paint in a modern art piece) or precise and delicate (such as the fine brush strokes). This is the process of appreciation I feel. Basically, the "I like this picture" is a very visual experience for me, not a vocal experience at all. If I did not like the picture then I just look at it, have an internal feeling of "meh" or "boredom" and do not put any effort into memorization or related recall and connectivity of the memory.

crag-jene 3y ago

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