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Windows 7 is pretty good in my opinion. I only run a linux box right now, but when I need Office/Photoshop/Games, I'm much more likely to go with Windows than M

by asto 14y ago

Windows 7 is pretty good in my opinion. I only run a linux box right now, but when I need Office/Photoshop/Games, I'm much more likely to go with Windows than Mac. What's wrong with windows as of Windows 7? As far as I can see, not very much. It seemed quite stable for the limited time I used it. It's good to look at. It gets the job done. What more do I need? I'm sure Windows 8 will be a decent move up from here. A better choice for worst CEO would have been the former RIM CEO or the current Nokia one. I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DITCHED MEEGO IN FAVOUR OF WINDOWS PHONE!!! AARRGGGG!

beedogs 14y ago
> I'm sure Windows 8 will be a decent move up from here. I've used it. It isn't. It's well and truly a horrorshow. And I like Windows 7.
- asto 14y ago
  I've tried out the consumer preview as well. Can't say anything about how it performs because I tried it on VM but it had some obvious flaws that affected usability. I don't think we should judge them before the final release though. (or maybe we should wait till SP1 :D)
- freehunter 14y ago
  And there are people still using XP because they say 7 is a horrorshow. I've worked (in the last year!) with some salesmen at my company who still ask to be moved back to DOS because they can't figure out Windows. Opinions are a funny thing: they're not always logical.
  - pessimizer 14y ago
    People are mostly still using XP because they said Vista was a horror show, and the upgrade path from XP to 7 is either extremely difficult or impossible.
    - holychiz 14y ago
      really?!!! upgrade from XP to 7 takes about 5 clicks. Please give an example of your difficulties.
      - pessimizer 14y ago
        drivers
      - T-hawk 14y ago
        You misread the versions. Windows Vista to Windows 7 takes about 5 clicks, yes. But there is no direct upgrade process at all from XP to 7. It's possible to go XP -> Vista -> 7, but no sane person would buy a copy of Vista just to do that. Here are Microsoft's official instructions for upgrading from XP to 7. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help/upgrading-f... First you export all your files and settings from XP. Then you install Windows 7, which is actually a fresh OS install and not an upgrade. Then you reinstall your programs and import your files and settings back in.
  - tspiteri 14y ago
    And before that it was people using 2000 because they said XP was a horrorshow.
thewinuser 14y ago
I've been a windows user for a long time. Windows evolution is too damn slow and too profit driven. Being a Microsoft customer, feels like being subjected to a painfully slow usability experiment. Now they bring forward WinRT and Metro UI but I expected that with Win7 or even earlier. Whats wrong with win7 ? Its just a (more) stable win xp with a new theme and a new price. If I had a business, I would be scared to let Microsoft control me by the b*lls.
mbell 14y ago
> What's wrong with windows as of Windows 7? 1) The start menu is just terrible, 2012 and they haven't imposed a method to avoid it being a jumbled mess. Worst part, even if i reorganize it to be more gnome 2 like, next time an app updates it fubars it again. The only thing that makes it remotely usable is the search bar. 2) Explorer's file copy capabilities are really bad, get 3-4 transfers going to your NAS, a USB key, whatever and it crawls to a halt. 3) Explorer just completely goes to hell if you lose connection to a network drive. I have my home NAS mapped as a network drive, take the laptop somewhere else, tell it to resume, "oh no i have a folder on by NAS open when it went to sleep", now I have to wait 20 minutes while it decides it can't find the network drive, nor will explorer do anything while it waits. Also the using the "file upload" window in chrome is useless when the NAS drive isn't available, it literally crashes chrome on my laptop since chrome times out waiting for windows to decide the drive is unavailable, i have to use drag+drop to attach files to gmail. 4) Mouse scroll wheel only works on the window with focus, luckily there is an addon that fixes this called WizMouse 5) No virtual desktops. 6) No native mounting of iso files, seriously I have to install some third party program that installs a fake CD-ROM drive to access the file system of an iso? I think that covers my major gripes, my only major gripe of linux, and why I stopped using it as my primary OS, is just terrible management of multiple displays, especially in multiple orientations.
- davidw 14y ago
  > 5) No virtual desktops. http://www.welton.it/articles/windows_for_linux_users http://www.welton.it/articles/windows_for_linux_users There used to be one you could install, which made Windows slightly more tolerable.
  - reddit_clone 14y ago
    >> 5) No virtual desktops. I have used Dexpot with success in the past (in XP though. Haven't tried with Win7) http://dexpot.de/index.php?id=home http://dexpot.de/index.php?id=home
- eigenvector 14y ago
  2) and 6) are fixed in Windows 8.
pessimizer 14y ago
I was pleasantly surprised by Windows 7, and it doesn't make me physically ill to use or support like Vista did. It's like a cleaner, stable XP. But that's the problem, really. I didn't love XP - in fact I feel like I remember the inflection point sometime after SP2 where people were starting to say, 'XP isn't that bad any more - it's gotten pretty solid and isn't too much of a pain.' That's not really attractive. Innovating on UI is probably what they should be doing - because all three major operating systems are powerful enough when not intentionally crippled, but Windows 8 is pretty repulsive.
randomdata 14y ago
What's wrong with windows as of Windows 7? If you are someone who invests in learning how to use your tools, nothing. Technically, I think they've done a great job in fixing the issues of Windows past. It is still a system for experts though. Just the other day I used Windows (7) for the first time since Windows 2000 was all the rage and found it to be an incredibly confusing experience. I almost felt like I had never touched a computer before. Since this article seems to be directed at consumers, most people there are not experts, and that is where Windows is failing.
- rbanffy 14y ago
  Windows may be an OS for experts, but only as far as those are experts on Windows. Anyone who has used anything else for any significant amount of time would rather have a root canal treatment than returning to Windows.

by asto 14y ago

beedogs 14y ago

> I'm sure Windows 8 will be a decent move up from here. I've used it. It isn't. It's well and truly a horrorshow. And I like Windows 7.

asto 14y ago
I've tried out the consumer preview as well. Can't say anything about how it performs because I tried it on VM but it had some obvious flaws that affected usability. I don't think we should judge them before the final release though. (or maybe we should wait till SP1 :D)
freehunter 14y ago
And there are people still using XP because they say 7 is a horrorshow. I've worked (in the last year!) with some salesmen at my company who still ask to be moved back to DOS because they can't figure out Windows. Opinions are a funny thing: they're not always logical.
- pessimizer 14y ago
  People are mostly still using XP because they said Vista was a horror show, and the upgrade path from XP to 7 is either extremely difficult or impossible.
  - holychiz 14y ago
    really?!!! upgrade from XP to 7 takes about 5 clicks. Please give an example of your difficulties.
    - pessimizer 14y ago
      drivers
    - T-hawk 14y ago
      You misread the versions. Windows Vista to Windows 7 takes about 5 clicks, yes. But there is no direct upgrade process at all from XP to 7. It's possible to go XP -> Vista -> 7, but no sane person would buy a copy of Vista just to do that. Here are Microsoft's official instructions for upgrading from XP to 7. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help/upgrading-f... First you export all your files and settings from XP. Then you install Windows 7, which is actually a fresh OS install and not an upgrade. Then you reinstall your programs and import your files and settings back in.
- tspiteri 14y ago
  And before that it was people using 2000 because they said XP was a horrorshow.

thewinuser 14y ago

I've been a windows user for a long time. Windows evolution is too damn slow and too profit driven. Being a Microsoft customer, feels like being subjected to a painfully slow usability experiment. Now they bring forward WinRT and Metro UI but I expected that with Win7 or even earlier. Whats wrong with win7 ? Its just a (more) stable win xp with a new theme and a new price. If I had a business, I would be scared to let Microsoft control me by the b*lls.

mbell 14y ago

> What's wrong with windows as of Windows 7? 1) The start menu is just terrible, 2012 and they haven't imposed a method to avoid it being a jumbled mess. Worst part, even if i reorganize it to be more gnome 2 like, next time an app updates it fubars it again. The only thing that makes it remotely usable is the search bar. 2) Explorer's file copy capabilities are really bad, get 3-4 transfers going to your NAS, a USB key, whatever and it crawls to a halt. 3) Explorer just completely goes to hell if you lose connection to a network drive. I have my home NAS mapped as a network drive, take the laptop somewhere else, tell it to resume, "oh no i have a folder on by NAS open when it went to sleep", now I have to wait 20 minutes while it decides it can't find the network drive, nor will explorer do anything while it waits. Also the using the "file upload" window in chrome is useless when the NAS drive isn't available, it literally crashes chrome on my laptop since chrome times out waiting for windows to decide the drive is unavailable, i have to use drag+drop to attach files to gmail. 4) Mouse scroll wheel only works on the window with focus, luckily there is an addon that fixes this called WizMouse 5) No virtual desktops. 6) No native mounting of iso files, seriously I have to install some third party program that installs a fake CD-ROM drive to access the file system of an iso? I think that covers my major gripes, my only major gripe of linux, and why I stopped using it as my primary OS, is just terrible management of multiple displays, especially in multiple orientations.

davidw 14y ago
> 5) No virtual desktops. http://www.welton.it/articles/windows_for_linux_users http://www.welton.it/articles/windows_for_linux_users There used to be one you could install, which made Windows slightly more tolerable.
- reddit_clone 14y ago
  >> 5) No virtual desktops. I have used Dexpot with success in the past (in XP though. Haven't tried with Win7) http://dexpot.de/index.php?id=home http://dexpot.de/index.php?id=home
eigenvector 14y ago
2) and 6) are fixed in Windows 8.

pessimizer 14y ago

I was pleasantly surprised by Windows 7, and it doesn't make me physically ill to use or support like Vista did. It's like a cleaner, stable XP. But that's the problem, really. I didn't love XP - in fact I feel like I remember the inflection point sometime after SP2 where people were starting to say, 'XP isn't that bad any more - it's gotten pretty solid and isn't too much of a pain.' That's not really attractive. Innovating on UI is probably what they should be doing - because all three major operating systems are powerful enough when not intentionally crippled, but Windows 8 is pretty repulsive.

randomdata 14y ago

What's wrong with windows as of Windows 7? If you are someone who invests in learning how to use your tools, nothing. Technically, I think they've done a great job in fixing the issues of Windows past. It is still a system for experts though. Just the other day I used Windows (7) for the first time since Windows 2000 was all the rage and found it to be an incredibly confusing experience. I almost felt like I had never touched a computer before. Since this article seems to be directed at consumers, most people there are not experts, and that is where Windows is failing.

rbanffy 14y ago
Windows may be an OS for experts, but only as far as those are experts on Windows. Anyone who has used anything else for any significant amount of time would rather have a root canal treatment than returning to Windows.