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Laptop + 32 gigs of RAM is a recipe for destruction of your wallet. At least for desktops you can kind of scope things out, but companies aren't really in the p

by rtpg 3y ago

Laptop + 32 gigs of RAM is a recipe for destruction of your wallet. At least for desktops you can kind of scope things out, but companies aren't really in the practice of distributing desktops anymore it seems.

jakderrida 3y ago
> Laptop + 32 gigs of RAM is a recipe for destruction of your wallet. While I'm not a developer of any sort, you couldn't be more on the nose here. I waited and waited for a Surface Laptop that has 32gb on ebay. When it came, price skyrocket to almost double the 16gb model. Twice more it happened and I literally gave up and bought the 16gb. I don't know what the retail premium from Microsoft is, but the reseller premium is truly insanity. Surely, Microsoft spent the time engineering it to fit 32gb and could reap more producing more of them.
virtualritz 3y ago
I have the 2022 model of this machine [1] which is a macBook Pro clone from Xiaomi. It's an absolute beast, build quality is almost on par with Apple (screen is better than what Apple offered in 2022, actually) and the 32GB RAM base model from this year can be had for less than 1,000€. I dunno where the "destruction of your wallet" threshold lies for you but for me it's way higher. The 2022 version also used Ryzen APUs and there is excellent Linux support. It's my daily driver for Rust development (I run Pop!_OS on it). [1] https://a.aliexpress.com/_EygTDml https://a.aliexpress.com/_EygTDml
- binary132 3y ago
  "But for me it's way higher" Point not comprehended.
- rtpg 3y ago
  I’m really not wild about buying a Xiaomi laptop (even though my understanding is Xiaomis stuff is all well engineered etc). People will point to the NSA doing shit but I have fairly little faith in Xiaomi devices (especially ones heading towards foreign addresses) not having nasty secret backdoors. There is a bit of a qualitative distinction between the Lenovo backdoor stuff and that. But that’s just my personal threat model
speedgoose 3y ago
I recently upgraded my gaming laptop to 32GB DDR4 for very cheap. It doesn’t destroy the wallet if the ram isn’t soldered and you can easily replace it. I paid about 75€ with taxes for two sticks of 16GB. I wouldn’t recommend gaming laptops as laptops though. They are terrible laptops.
- rtpg 3y ago
  How much was the gaming laptop itself though? I’m sure you can make this work of course, just curious about the base machine price
  - speedgoose 3y ago
    About 2000€ I think. But you can probably find a gaming laptop around 1000€ that is easy to upgrade to 32GB.
kuschku 3y ago
What? Laptop + 32G RAM is Laptop + 100€. With a refurbished thinkpad you can get reasonable compile times for as little as 600€. Stop buying macbooks if you want lots of RAM and performance for a low price.

by rtpg 3y ago

jakderrida 3y ago

> Laptop + 32 gigs of RAM is a recipe for destruction of your wallet. While I'm not a developer of any sort, you couldn't be more on the nose here. I waited and waited for a Surface Laptop that has 32gb on ebay. When it came, price skyrocket to almost double the 16gb model. Twice more it happened and I literally gave up and bought the 16gb. I don't know what the retail premium from Microsoft is, but the reseller premium is truly insanity. Surely, Microsoft spent the time engineering it to fit 32gb and could reap more producing more of them.

virtualritz 3y ago

I have the 2022 model of this machine [1] which is a macBook Pro clone from Xiaomi. It's an absolute beast, build quality is almost on par with Apple (screen is better than what Apple offered in 2022, actually) and the 32GB RAM base model from this year can be had for less than 1,000€. I dunno where the "destruction of your wallet" threshold lies for you but for me it's way higher. The 2022 version also used Ryzen APUs and there is excellent Linux support. It's my daily driver for Rust development (I run Pop!_OS on it). [1] https://a.aliexpress.com/_EygTDml https://a.aliexpress.com/_EygTDml

binary132 3y ago
"But for me it's way higher" Point not comprehended.
rtpg 3y ago
I’m really not wild about buying a Xiaomi laptop (even though my understanding is Xiaomis stuff is all well engineered etc). People will point to the NSA doing shit but I have fairly little faith in Xiaomi devices (especially ones heading towards foreign addresses) not having nasty secret backdoors. There is a bit of a qualitative distinction between the Lenovo backdoor stuff and that. But that’s just my personal threat model

speedgoose 3y ago

I recently upgraded my gaming laptop to 32GB DDR4 for very cheap. It doesn’t destroy the wallet if the ram isn’t soldered and you can easily replace it. I paid about 75€ with taxes for two sticks of 16GB. I wouldn’t recommend gaming laptops as laptops though. They are terrible laptops.

rtpg 3y ago
How much was the gaming laptop itself though? I’m sure you can make this work of course, just curious about the base machine price
- speedgoose 3y ago
  About 2000€ I think. But you can probably find a gaming laptop around 1000€ that is easy to upgrade to 32GB.

kuschku 3y ago

What? Laptop + 32G RAM is Laptop + 100€. With a refurbished thinkpad you can get reasonable compile times for as little as 600€. Stop buying macbooks if you want lots of RAM and performance for a low price.