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In some cultures, recipients of such pictures would probably just laugh and be at most confused. In others, the population is conditioned to be offended to the

In some cultures, recipients of such pictures would probably just laugh and be at most confused. In others, the population is conditioned to be offended to the point of making it highly illegal. It doesn't even sound like this case is about mutilated or otherwise abnormally disturbing imagery; merely normal human anatomy.

dgacmu 3y ago
Um. To a fifteen year old. Who distinctly did not want to receive such. Notably, the guy was already a registered sex offender. Sure this is the hill for you?
zht 3y ago
how many pictures of genitals did you receive when you were 15?
- DontchaKnowit 3y ago
  I can't tell which direction you are going with on this because the honest answer is a lot, and all my friends too. I remember a girl friend of mine in high school (we were 15) showing me a video of a grown man jerking off and she said he was married but they'd been cheating together. Sadly, not terribly uncommon
acdha 3y ago
“Normal human anatomy” is what you say if someone’s swimsuit slips in the surf, not when a sex offender sends a child pictures with the intent of forcing them to think about him sexually. The difference is intent: he knew it was unwelcome, and he didn’t care about that lack of consent. Now might be a really good time to think about why your first instinct is to defend the guy committing mid-level sexual assault rather than the child he targeted.
- userbinator 3y ago
  sends a child pictures with the intent of forcing them to think about him sexually That's entirely the result of a cultural construct. about why your first instinct is to defend the guy Trying to turn this into an "us vs. them" situation? I was just pointing out the huge cultural differences that exist in the world beyond Western puritanism.
  - DontchaKnowit 3y ago
    So you think sending dick pics to a 15 year old is chill in other cultures? I'll keep my western puritanism, thanks.
    - defrost 3y ago
      > So you think sending dick pics to a 15 year old is chill in other cultures? Not what they said. The suggestion was that they'd laugh, make a joke about stupid men, tell them to put their dick away. The most probable response to a real life flasher in this part of the world would be a little finger wiggle and the expression "ahh, winyarn" with a lot of mocking laughter. Needless to say, not very many actual flashers .. but you can see plenty of near and fully naked men (and women) briefly changing in and out of wetsuits down the car park at the beach. There's more on show at the various nudist beaches. You keep your puritanism by all means, it's no skin off my western nose.
      - krisoft 3y ago
        I’m very curious if you have heard about the murder of Sarah Everard. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sarah_Everard https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sarah_Everard Her murderer, Wayne Couzens, had on multiple occasions “flashed” various women before kidnapping and murdering her. These prior offenses were reported to the police but the police failed to investigate them properly. If they would have they would have recognised the escalating trend in his behaviour and perhaps could have prevented her death. While I’m not saying that every flasher will “graduate” to become a murderer, this is the context this crime is viewed today in the UK. In some purely academic sense you are right. What displaying any body part means is culturaly coded. It could mean anything. But in the context of the relevant culture sending someone a dick-pick like this is clearly about power, and forcing one’s self on someone against their will.
- uaserussia 3y ago
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WheatMillington 3y ago
Would you have a similar opinion of someone exposing themselves in person to your children? It's just human anatomy, after all.
wruza 3y ago
Did you mean "subcultures"? Can't remember any modern culture which would generally see it as a confusing joke.
LorenPechtel 3y ago
Look at the law in Vermont. There's no law against nudity (there are local laws in some places, though!) but there is a law against undressing in public. Nudity legal, flashing is not. This guy was flashing. I think Vermont got it right. I believe your right to dress as you want exceeds my right to dictate how you dress. But that does *not* mean you get to involve me in your sex games.

dgacmu 3y ago

Um. To a fifteen year old. Who distinctly did not want to receive such. Notably, the guy was already a registered sex offender. Sure this is the hill for you?

zht 3y ago

how many pictures of genitals did you receive when you were 15?

DontchaKnowit 3y ago
I can't tell which direction you are going with on this because the honest answer is a lot, and all my friends too. I remember a girl friend of mine in high school (we were 15) showing me a video of a grown man jerking off and she said he was married but they'd been cheating together. Sadly, not terribly uncommon

acdha 3y ago

“Normal human anatomy” is what you say if someone’s swimsuit slips in the surf, not when a sex offender sends a child pictures with the intent of forcing them to think about him sexually. The difference is intent: he knew it was unwelcome, and he didn’t care about that lack of consent. Now might be a really good time to think about why your first instinct is to defend the guy committing mid-level sexual assault rather than the child he targeted.

userbinator 3y ago
sends a child pictures with the intent of forcing them to think about him sexually That's entirely the result of a cultural construct. about why your first instinct is to defend the guy Trying to turn this into an "us vs. them" situation? I was just pointing out the huge cultural differences that exist in the world beyond Western puritanism.
- DontchaKnowit 3y ago
  So you think sending dick pics to a 15 year old is chill in other cultures? I'll keep my western puritanism, thanks.
  - defrost 3y ago
    > So you think sending dick pics to a 15 year old is chill in other cultures? Not what they said. The suggestion was that they'd laugh, make a joke about stupid men, tell them to put their dick away. The most probable response to a real life flasher in this part of the world would be a little finger wiggle and the expression "ahh, winyarn" with a lot of mocking laughter. Needless to say, not very many actual flashers .. but you can see plenty of near and fully naked men (and women) briefly changing in and out of wetsuits down the car park at the beach. There's more on show at the various nudist beaches. You keep your puritanism by all means, it's no skin off my western nose.
    - krisoft 3y ago
      I’m very curious if you have heard about the murder of Sarah Everard. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sarah_Everard https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sarah_Everard Her murderer, Wayne Couzens, had on multiple occasions “flashed” various women before kidnapping and murdering her. These prior offenses were reported to the police but the police failed to investigate them properly. If they would have they would have recognised the escalating trend in his behaviour and perhaps could have prevented her death. While I’m not saying that every flasher will “graduate” to become a murderer, this is the context this crime is viewed today in the UK. In some purely academic sense you are right. What displaying any body part means is culturaly coded. It could mean anything. But in the context of the relevant culture sending someone a dick-pick like this is clearly about power, and forcing one’s self on someone against their will.
uaserussia 3y ago
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WheatMillington 3y ago

Would you have a similar opinion of someone exposing themselves in person to your children? It's just human anatomy, after all.

wruza 3y ago

Did you mean "subcultures"? Can't remember any modern culture which would generally see it as a confusing joke.

LorenPechtel 3y ago

Look at the law in Vermont. There's no law against nudity (there are local laws in some places, though!) but there is a law against undressing in public. Nudity legal, flashing is not. This guy was flashing. I think Vermont got it right. I believe your right to dress as you want exceeds my right to dictate how you dress. But that does *not* mean you get to involve me in your sex games.