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The problem is that costs for building the same transit infrastructure in America are ten or even fifty times higher than in Europe or Japan. Part of the diffe
by WildUtah 14y ago
The problem is that costs for building the same transit infrastructure in America are ten or even fifty times higher than in Europe or Japan.
Part of the difference is inefficient procurement policies letting contracts to very high cost bidders with corrupt hand tailored RFQs and hiring expensive labor from well-connected limited pools. Part of it is active local democracy of communities that have been trained by the freeway boom to see infrastructure as a disaster for places that get it. Part of it is a very slow environmental review bureaucracy. Part of it is buy-American policies even when none of the top countries in some industries are American.
But the main problem is that transit is built and run in America as a way to spread political influence for committees that distribute pork and a fun indulgence for influential people who won't ride it. In Europe and Japan, middle class voters expect transit to work and the politicians and bureaucrats who build it intend to ride it themselves.
BART to SFO cost almost $2 billion. A good connection to CalTrain would have cost under $200 million. Heck, for under $1 billion you could also have connected CalTrain and BART at Embarcadero or Montgomery with a lower total trip time for most passengers.
I don't know what BART to San Jose will cost, but you could have really high quality BRT down El Camino with similar benefits in just a year with the money BART will spend on engineering studies over the next three decades planning the San Jose train.
But the authorities enjoy being involved in a big splash white elephant project more than building good transit.
A very good and short brief:
http://pedestrianobservations.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/us-rail-construction-costs/ http://pedestrianobservations.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/us-ra...
More:
http://pedestrianobservations.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/cost-concerns-reasonable-and-otherwise/ http://pedestrianobservations.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/cost-...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stephensmith/2011/12/07/washington-post-only-idiots-think-infrastructure-spending-is-wasteful-and-americans-are-idiots/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/stephensmith/2011/12/07/washingt...
- mahyarm 14y agoThe problem with caltrain is frequency of service. It should extend out until an hour after bar closings and have minimum every 20 minute service. Otherwise it become unworkable for most people.
- fdr 14y agoAs a resident, seconded. Even living in San Francisco, the utility of a Caltrain connection is much reduced vs. BART. Was 10x too much to pay, if it is as the OP claimed? Maybe. As a former resident (and having grown up in) the east bay, the same applies: the Bart connection is much preferred to Caltrain, which is a big plus because the snarl of getting from the north-east bay to the airport is considerably worse vs. people taking their cars from the south bay, having also lived there as well. I have also commuted on Caltrain, and liked it, but it's in weird places farther north, not well integrated with BART, and not frequent enough. All in all, I don't think the difference in price (projections are awfully fickle) or at least utility is as clear as the OP suggests.