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I view a comment like yours as essentially spam and of negative value. I'm not sure if we (vaguely, hn forum community) have agreed on the etiquette here, but I

I view a comment like yours as essentially spam and of negative value. I'm not sure if we (vaguely, hn forum community) have agreed on the etiquette here, but I have to ask why you would bother sharing an AI-generated response if you're not sure if it's correct. What are you getting at? How could this be helpful?

saurik 3y ago
I am often picky about my/our time being wasted by low-effort comments but in this case I actually was myself coming into this thread assuming the actual tool being discussed was itself going to be an LLM-based solution; and, when it wasn't, all I was thinking was "aren't we in the future? isn't this just something people are going to ask an AI to handle now?". Hell: a friend of mine claims he asked Claude (using some plug-in in his IDE) to port his app from Firebase all the way to PostgreSQL and it just did it... and it mostly worked well enough to save him a ton of time typing and looking up syntax for stuff, and I think it is now in production? I do agree, though--and maybe this was your core point--that maybe this "let's ask Gemini" comment should be left by someone who would also know if the answer was correct rather than just saying "no clue but". Although, honestly, even having the output seems useful here (and again: I am someone constantly unhappy about people asking questions they can Google and other such filler content).
- irq-1 3y ago
  I agree: the comment was on-topic, included technical information (dual table?), and AI accuracy/usefulness is of interest to most readers. Maybe in a year I'll think such a comment is bad, but not today.
- febed 3y ago
  > a friend of mine claims he asked Claude (using some plug-in in his IDE) to port his app from Firebase all the way to PostgreSQL and it just did it In now interested in your friends setup. Do you have more details?
  - saurik 3y ago
    "I’ve been using Phind + their VS Code plugin" ... "I got them to add Claude 3 Opus support"
zeroxfe 3y ago
Apologies, I was trying to imply that LLMs may be more practical to solve these kinds of problems than hand-built translators (assuming the primary purpose is for engineers using this during development.)
- scarface_74 3y ago
  A transpiler will be consistent and can be correct. An LLM based solution can be correct but won’t be consistent. I would much rather a tool be consistent and always incorrect in the same way than inconsistent and sometimes correct. I can create test cases and correct the underlying code. I can’t do that with an LLM
  - zeroxfe 3y ago
    > A transpiler will be consistent and can be correct. No disagreement. My point is that it's impractically hard to build especially given the scope and complexity of the SQL dialects of major databases.
parhamn 3y ago
I think it's really reasonable. When I was going through the readme I was (half heartedly) interested in seeing an OPENAI_KEY config variable in the readme.

saurik 3y ago

I am often picky about my/our time being wasted by low-effort comments but in this case I actually was myself coming into this thread assuming the actual tool being discussed was itself going to be an LLM-based solution; and, when it wasn't, all I was thinking was "aren't we in the future? isn't this just something people are going to ask an AI to handle now?". Hell: a friend of mine claims he asked Claude (using some plug-in in his IDE) to port his app from Firebase all the way to PostgreSQL and it just did it... and it mostly worked well enough to save him a ton of time typing and looking up syntax for stuff, and I think it is now in production? I do agree, though--and maybe this was your core point--that maybe this "let's ask Gemini" comment should be left by someone who would also know if the answer was correct rather than just saying "no clue but". Although, honestly, even having the output seems useful here (and again: I am someone constantly unhappy about people asking questions they can Google and other such filler content).

irq-1 3y ago
I agree: the comment was on-topic, included technical information (dual table?), and AI accuracy/usefulness is of interest to most readers. Maybe in a year I'll think such a comment is bad, but not today.
febed 3y ago
> a friend of mine claims he asked Claude (using some plug-in in his IDE) to port his app from Firebase all the way to PostgreSQL and it just did it In now interested in your friends setup. Do you have more details?
- saurik 3y ago
  "I’ve been using Phind + their VS Code plugin" ... "I got them to add Claude 3 Opus support"

zeroxfe 3y ago

Apologies, I was trying to imply that LLMs may be more practical to solve these kinds of problems than hand-built translators (assuming the primary purpose is for engineers using this during development.)

scarface_74 3y ago
A transpiler will be consistent and can be correct. An LLM based solution can be correct but won’t be consistent. I would much rather a tool be consistent and always incorrect in the same way than inconsistent and sometimes correct. I can create test cases and correct the underlying code. I can’t do that with an LLM
- zeroxfe 3y ago
  > A transpiler will be consistent and can be correct. No disagreement. My point is that it's impractically hard to build especially given the scope and complexity of the SQL dialects of major databases.

parhamn 3y ago

I think it's really reasonable. When I was going through the readme I was (half heartedly) interested in seeing an OPENAI_KEY config variable in the readme.