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I think eventually we're heading to website as data with clients remixing the data in a way you don't expect; i.e., the final output will be a mishmash of sourc

I think eventually we're heading to website as data with clients remixing the data in a way you don't expect; i.e., the final output will be a mishmash of sources.

blowski 3y ago
Sounds like "the semantic web", which has been a great idea just about to take for about 20 years now.
- threatofrain 3y ago
  The problem is that the web isn't semantic enough; I mean, when considering the use case of reading documents, we don't even have a table of contents element.
  - blowski 3y ago
    The vast majority of web content is published on sites that want people to use the content in their extremely curated walled garden. Making it easy to mash up content and integrate it with other sites is the exact opposite of what's happening on Facebook, Google, Twitter, LinkedIn, Reddit, et al.
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CuriouslyC 3y ago
The opposite of that actually. Nobody is going to bother with websites if it's just data that gets slurped up by AI and fed back to people, it's a lot of work for no payout. People who make websites are going to make them interactive multimedia experiences that pull you away from the chatbot to feel something. The New York Times the information dump has no future, the New York Times the interactive multimedia social game and event hub with emotionally stirring stories, pictures and video can survive.
- freedomben 3y ago
  I can't speak to GP, but AI is exactly what I had in mind when I read their comment. With AI transforming website content, the sites themselves just become data sources. You could be right though, especially with more and more sites blocking robots. Legitimate companies might just have to shrug and say, "this site prohibits me from reading it. You'll have to go there instead) though that seems like a legal problem to me rather than a technical one.
  - CuriouslyC 3y ago
    Sites that try to use robots.txt to stay relevant are going to fail spectacularly. All their information is going to leak or be provided by other sources, and they're going to get forgotten. The only people who will be able to make a living selling data will be the ones who can produce data so unique that nobody else can claim to have created it, and for which training on it leaves an unmistakable signature that makes litigation easy.
jmilloy 3y ago
Why do you think that? Everything I see suggests the opposite.

I think eventually we're heading to website as data with clients remixing the data in a way you don't expect; i.e., the final output will be a mishmash of sources.

blowski 3y ago

Sounds like "the semantic web", which has been a great idea just about to take for about 20 years now.

threatofrain 3y ago
The problem is that the web isn't semantic enough; I mean, when considering the use case of reading documents, we don't even have a table of contents element.
- blowski 3y ago
  The vast majority of web content is published on sites that want people to use the content in their extremely curated walled garden. Making it easy to mash up content and integrate it with other sites is the exact opposite of what's happening on Facebook, Google, Twitter, LinkedIn, Reddit, et al.
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CuriouslyC 3y ago

The opposite of that actually. Nobody is going to bother with websites if it's just data that gets slurped up by AI and fed back to people, it's a lot of work for no payout. People who make websites are going to make them interactive multimedia experiences that pull you away from the chatbot to feel something. The New York Times the information dump has no future, the New York Times the interactive multimedia social game and event hub with emotionally stirring stories, pictures and video can survive.

freedomben 3y ago
I can't speak to GP, but AI is exactly what I had in mind when I read their comment. With AI transforming website content, the sites themselves just become data sources. You could be right though, especially with more and more sites blocking robots. Legitimate companies might just have to shrug and say, "this site prohibits me from reading it. You'll have to go there instead) though that seems like a legal problem to me rather than a technical one.
- CuriouslyC 3y ago
  Sites that try to use robots.txt to stay relevant are going to fail spectacularly. All their information is going to leak or be provided by other sources, and they're going to get forgotten. The only people who will be able to make a living selling data will be the ones who can produce data so unique that nobody else can claim to have created it, and for which training on it leaves an unmistakable signature that makes litigation easy.

jmilloy 3y ago

Why do you think that? Everything I see suggests the opposite.