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My take is that law tries to dictate UX more than just set groundrules which good laws do. They pre-emptively set the law such that it prevents any use when the

My take is that law tries to dictate UX more than just set groundrules which good laws do. They pre-emptively set the law such that it prevents any use when the focus is on misuse. The law is about 1st party and 3rd party cookies, not just 3rd party. In an ideal case, if it was just a law, a simpler wording could be "you are allowed to collect anonymized data, but not monetize/share it without permission from users. We may ask you to furnish proof that you havent been doing that at times, failing which you would face massive fines (as %age of revenue whatever)." Problem is collecting basic anonymized usage data[1] is needed by companies to improve the product, provide a better experience, detect misuse. They bundled those use cases with everything else meaning the law was too broad and we got cookie banners given every site needs basic analytics. On flipside, worst is that most websites use Google Analytics, so they might have had to display the banners anyway. [1] Moreover, it's vaguely worded so we companies do not know if they have committed a GDPR offence. By general understanding IP addresses are under GDPR. You can get that via request headers. So, to be on the safe side, even anonymized analytics tracking is considered under GDPR

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account42 3y ago
Usage data is NOT needed to improve your website. > Moreover, it's vaguely worded so we companies do not know if they have committed a GDPR offence. Only if they are trying to skirt the law.
- ankit219 3y ago
  If it was so clear, why do we have European courts giving clarifications now that were not clear at the time of original law? like this: https://www.gdprsummary.com/cookie-consent-must-be-an-active-choice/ https://www.gdprsummary.com/cookie-consent-must-be-an-active... notice the part about how purposes cannot be bundled together. EU's own website does that till date. > NOT needed to improve your website When I say usage data, aggregated data about how many people bounced off my page, or how long it took for my webpage to load under different internet connections is absolutely needed for me to make sure every user that comes on the page is having a good enough experience. I may not save any info, but those numbers are definitely used in aggregate. if the bounce rate is too high, content is not useful for people i am reaching. If i cant know that, how does the webpage gets better. That is usage data. I do not care about who the person is, but I would want to know whether it was one person doing one action 100 times or 100 different people doing the same action. Makes a massive difference.

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account42 3y ago

Usage data is NOT needed to improve your website. > Moreover, it's vaguely worded so we companies do not know if they have committed a GDPR offence. Only if they are trying to skirt the law.

ankit219 3y ago
If it was so clear, why do we have European courts giving clarifications now that were not clear at the time of original law? like this: https://www.gdprsummary.com/cookie-consent-must-be-an-active-choice/ https://www.gdprsummary.com/cookie-consent-must-be-an-active... notice the part about how purposes cannot be bundled together. EU's own website does that till date. > NOT needed to improve your website When I say usage data, aggregated data about how many people bounced off my page, or how long it took for my webpage to load under different internet connections is absolutely needed for me to make sure every user that comes on the page is having a good enough experience. I may not save any info, but those numbers are definitely used in aggregate. if the bounce rate is too high, content is not useful for people i am reaching. If i cant know that, how does the webpage gets better. That is usage data. I do not care about who the person is, but I would want to know whether it was one person doing one action 100 times or 100 different people doing the same action. Makes a massive difference.