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On Python packaging

50 points by arthurk 18y ago

tdavis 18y ago
The thing I've always hated about eggs is that invariably something that uses an egg won't have the permissions to write to the default egg cache. It has gotten to the point now that if I know something is going to install an egg, I just do setup.py build and copy the build folder into site-packages. It's just not worth the annoyance for what is, at least as far as I can tell, no gain. (Edit: read cache)
- ruby_roo 18y ago
  You know what else sucks about Python eggs? They're called 'eggs'. :(
  - tdavis 18y ago
    No worse than "gems" ;)
alexkay 18y ago
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old-gregg 18y ago
Short version: don't reinvent the wheel. And, going back to an analogous issue in the Ruby world mentioned by the author, I hope RubyGems team will finally accept the reality we live in and fix that little "parallel dimension" they created.
jbert 18y ago
In the perl world, I: - use apt to manage what's installed on the system - use CPAN to manage additional stuff installed per-user (you just specify a standard install prefix for all CPAN modules) that way I don't mess with the system (any packages wanted by system components see the version they are expecting) but I can have (per-user) additional pkgs + updated pkgs, which is often useful. This seems to be the best of both worlds, to me.
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bandris 18y ago
Ian Bicking's long reply: http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/12/14/a-few-corrections-to-on-packaging/ http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/12/14/a-few-corrections-to-o...

50 points by arthurk 18y ago

The thing I've always hated about eggs is that invariably something that uses an egg won't have the permissions to write to the default egg cache. It has gotten to the point now that if I know something is going to install an egg, I just do setup.py build and copy the build folder into site-packages. It's just not worth the annoyance for what is, at least as far as I can tell, no gain. (Edit: read cache)

ruby_roo 18y ago
You know what else sucks about Python eggs? They're called 'eggs'. :(
- tdavis 18y ago
  No worse than "gems" ;)

alexkay 18y ago

Cached version: http://is.gd/bFtu http://is.gd/bFtu

old-gregg 18y ago

Short version: don't reinvent the wheel. And, going back to an analogous issue in the Ruby world mentioned by the author, I hope RubyGems team will finally accept the reality we live in and fix that little "parallel dimension" they created.

jbert 18y ago

In the perl world, I: - use apt to manage what's installed on the system - use CPAN to manage additional stuff installed per-user (you just specify a standard install prefix for all CPAN modules) that way I don't mess with the system (any packages wanted by system components see the version they are expecting) but I can have (per-user) additional pkgs + updated pkgs, which is often useful. This seems to be the best of both worlds, to me.

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