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Is it written/enforceable somewhere?

passwordoops 3y ago
Not enforceable on the platforms I used to check for a family member this weekend (Google, Flighthub, and directly on two airlines sites). But they do all specify the model in "flight details" which was usually a pop-up. But I'm sure it must be on someone's backlog
- grepfru_it 3y ago
  Kayak can search by plane type
  - nathancahill 3y ago
    ITA Matrix as well.
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    Which can change minutes before boarding. You’d have to fly a non-alliance airline with single-type fleet like JetBlue or Southwest, and even then, a cancellation could pop you on another airline.
    - grepfru_it 3y ago
      I don’t understand what that has to do with the original request. Planes don’t typically change at the last minute.
      - ceejayoz 3y ago
        Planes change at the last minute often. Searching by type on Kayak is by no means a guarantee of anything.
        grepfru_it 3y ago
        >often One should ask how much I fly before one would make an assumption. I can count on a single hand how many times I have had a plane change at the last minute.
        ceejayoz 3y ago
        Three of my last six flights have not been on the original aircraft; Flighty has notified me each of those times of an equipment swap. In two of those cases the type changed. I'm hardly the only person with this experience; https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/37053/may-an-airline-change-the-aircraft-from-the-scheduled-one https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/37053/may-an-airl.... There's likely to be some variability from airline to airline and whether or not you're flying out of a big hub with lots of equipment present; as with most things, YMMV. If you're terrified of flying on a 737-MAX to the point of wanting a refund if one gets swapped in, though... take the train.
        grepfru_it 3y ago
        I’m going on 15 years. I also don’t fly budget airlines. When this happened I was flying virgin america, AirTran, and spirit. Only once did a United flight (the majority of my travels) change on me prior to my flight So maybe your experience is not the norm and one could be self reflective as I am?
ceejayoz 3y ago
No, the terms of the ticket will always permit swapping equipment.
- satellite2 3y ago
  That make sense in case of need and assuming most of the plane didn't select the option. But if you selected it, and they swap, are you reimbursed (with all the potential additional costs)?
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    No, of course not. You paid to be delivered intact to a particular destination. No part of the ticket's contract of carriage promises a particularly on-time arrival, any particular routing along the way, nor the type of aircraft. Example terms: https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html#rule-24 https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html#r... > Times shown on tickets, timetables, published schedules or elsewhere, and aircraft type and similar details reflected on tickets or UA’s schedule are not guaranteed and form no part of this contract. UA may substitute alternate carriers or aircraft, delay or cancel flights, and alter or omit stopping places or connections shown on the ticket at any time.
    - lp0_on_fire 3y ago
      > Times shown on tickets, timetables, published schedules or elsewhere, and aircraft type and similar details reflected on tickets or UA’s schedule are not guaranteed and form no part of this contract. That's a lot of lawyer-speak for "Our core business model has absolutely no guarantees and we can change it at any time for any reason and if our failure to serve our customers causes us to go bankrupt you rubes get to pay for it in the form of government bail-outs"

Not enforceable on the platforms I used to check for a family member this weekend (Google, Flighthub, and directly on two airlines sites). But they do all specify the model in "flight details" which was usually a pop-up. But I'm sure it must be on someone's backlog

grepfru_it 3y ago
Kayak can search by plane type
- nathancahill 3y ago
  ITA Matrix as well.
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  Which can change minutes before boarding. You’d have to fly a non-alliance airline with single-type fleet like JetBlue or Southwest, and even then, a cancellation could pop you on another airline.
  - grepfru_it 3y ago
    I don’t understand what that has to do with the original request. Planes don’t typically change at the last minute.
    - ceejayoz 3y ago
      Planes change at the last minute often. Searching by type on Kayak is by no means a guarantee of anything.
      - grepfru_it 3y ago
        >often One should ask how much I fly before one would make an assumption. I can count on a single hand how many times I have had a plane change at the last minute.
        ceejayoz 3y ago
        Three of my last six flights have not been on the original aircraft; Flighty has notified me each of those times of an equipment swap. In two of those cases the type changed. I'm hardly the only person with this experience; https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/37053/may-an-airline-change-the-aircraft-from-the-scheduled-one https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/37053/may-an-airl.... There's likely to be some variability from airline to airline and whether or not you're flying out of a big hub with lots of equipment present; as with most things, YMMV. If you're terrified of flying on a 737-MAX to the point of wanting a refund if one gets swapped in, though... take the train.
        grepfru_it 3y ago
        I’m going on 15 years. I also don’t fly budget airlines. When this happened I was flying virgin america, AirTran, and spirit. Only once did a United flight (the majority of my travels) change on me prior to my flight So maybe your experience is not the norm and one could be self reflective as I am?

ceejayoz 3y ago

No, the terms of the ticket will always permit swapping equipment.

satellite2 3y ago
That make sense in case of need and assuming most of the plane didn't select the option. But if you selected it, and they swap, are you reimbursed (with all the potential additional costs)?
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  No, of course not. You paid to be delivered intact to a particular destination. No part of the ticket's contract of carriage promises a particularly on-time arrival, any particular routing along the way, nor the type of aircraft. Example terms: https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html#rule-24 https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html#r... > Times shown on tickets, timetables, published schedules or elsewhere, and aircraft type and similar details reflected on tickets or UA’s schedule are not guaranteed and form no part of this contract. UA may substitute alternate carriers or aircraft, delay or cancel flights, and alter or omit stopping places or connections shown on the ticket at any time.
  - lp0_on_fire 3y ago
    > Times shown on tickets, timetables, published schedules or elsewhere, and aircraft type and similar details reflected on tickets or UA’s schedule are not guaranteed and form no part of this contract. That's a lot of lawyer-speak for "Our core business model has absolutely no guarantees and we can change it at any time for any reason and if our failure to serve our customers causes us to go bankrupt you rubes get to pay for it in the form of government bail-outs"