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Not saying you're wrong, but what else is there that just works and is usable instantly when you open the lid? While my work Windows laptop might be faster, it

Not saying you're wrong, but what else is there that just works and is usable instantly when you open the lid? While my work Windows laptop might be faster, it's certainly not the one I'm going to pick in a pinch or when I want to travel with just one laptop. The best mobile configuration I know right now is a Macbook Pro + Parallels. Even with all of its deficiencies. Are there any good Linux laptops with similar experience as Macbooks when it comes to power management and time from lid opening to usable state?

hmottestad 3y ago
You could always install Linux on your Macbook Pro. Personally I prefer MacOS though.
- dimask 3y ago
  Not so simple for apple silicon.
  - hmottestad 3y ago
    I haven't tried Asahi Linux myself, but it looks promising. Do you know if it lives up to expectations?
- kjkjadksj 3y ago
  Why? Macos is already a unix os.
  - galdosdi 3y ago
    Everyone says this until they're spending their whole weekend working around some weird tiny differences in between a GNU tool and something that comes with OSX or homebrew or something. And when you finally get it working you have the "satisfaction" of knowing you bought NOTHING of value with all that wasted time -- just the opportunity to be able to use FaceTime on the same laptop you develop on, or something. If you're looking for a UNIXy nice desktop OS and that's the entirety of your requirement, mac OS is great. If your REAL use case isn't just generic hanging around, but specifically developing/maintaining an app that runs on linux in production, then you're only hurting yourself the more you introduce mac or windows into the dev process. Nothing good can come of it. Best case you get lucky and you don't run into any issues... and also reap no real benefits because a linux desktop nowadays works fine, it's not the year 2000.
    - kjkjadksj 3y ago
      One line into the cli and you can have your gnu tools installed. Its no harder to manage software environments in mac than it is in linux because you can use the same tools. I use conda on mac and the linux server that does the compute. I could use docker too if i wanted.
  - hmottestad 3y ago
    The parent comment was asking about a laptop that was as good as a macbook but to run linux on.

hmottestad 3y ago

You could always install Linux on your Macbook Pro. Personally I prefer MacOS though.

dimask 3y ago
Not so simple for apple silicon.
- hmottestad 3y ago
  I haven't tried Asahi Linux myself, but it looks promising. Do you know if it lives up to expectations?
kjkjadksj 3y ago
Why? Macos is already a unix os.
- galdosdi 3y ago
  Everyone says this until they're spending their whole weekend working around some weird tiny differences in between a GNU tool and something that comes with OSX or homebrew or something. And when you finally get it working you have the "satisfaction" of knowing you bought NOTHING of value with all that wasted time -- just the opportunity to be able to use FaceTime on the same laptop you develop on, or something. If you're looking for a UNIXy nice desktop OS and that's the entirety of your requirement, mac OS is great. If your REAL use case isn't just generic hanging around, but specifically developing/maintaining an app that runs on linux in production, then you're only hurting yourself the more you introduce mac or windows into the dev process. Nothing good can come of it. Best case you get lucky and you don't run into any issues... and also reap no real benefits because a linux desktop nowadays works fine, it's not the year 2000.
  - kjkjadksj 3y ago
    One line into the cli and you can have your gnu tools installed. Its no harder to manage software environments in mac than it is in linux because you can use the same tools. I use conda on mac and the linux server that does the compute. I could use docker too if i wanted.
- hmottestad 3y ago
  The parent comment was asking about a laptop that was as good as a macbook but to run linux on.