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How about we have employers pay all the money to employees directly, everything, no payroll taxes, no “employer” taxes, and then collect everything directly fro
by alchemist1e9 3y ago
How about we have employers pay all the money to employees directly, everything, no payroll taxes, no “employer” taxes, and then collect everything directly from the citizens. The current tax regime would result in a revolution in 1 year. Perhaps have them also pay for health insurance. Pay all that money directly to the payroll employees. Everyone would go ballistic if the numbers weren’t hidden from them and they weren’t tricked with the tax refund gimmick of giving people $5/100 they paid back.
- ceejayoz 3y agoAs someone who pays for insurance directly (at $3k/month for a family), I'm all for making these costs more visible. A significant amount of the resistance to single-payer healthcare is people incorrectly thinking they pay $50/month for theirs because that's what their employer makes them chip in.
- alchemist1e9 3y agoPeople making what they are told is $70K/year are actually paid significantly more than that and their overall actual tax rate, because employer tax doesn’t actually exist economically since any tax the employer pays due to hiring the employee is a direct tax on the employee period, the real tax rate for common people is already nearing 50%! If we add the medical side in, which I agree is connected when comparing to other healthcare systems, which I do NOT agree are better, but still adding those in and a typical upper middle class suburban household is taking home a shockingly small chunk of their total economic compensation the employer is paying them. That healthcare costs are compensation, period, benefits is another euphemism ingrained in all of us, being used to hide the ugly truths from the general population.