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I have a tangential question about non-human consciousness. It is almost impossible for a human to perceive color red as colour blue. But this won't be a probl

I have a tangential question about non-human consciousness. It is almost impossible for a human to perceive color red as colour blue. But this won't be a problem for a futuristic humanoid. It would just be some kind of relabelling or a latent space transformation. Now imagine a AI virus that causes such reassignment of distinct colour values say in self driving scenario causing traffic accidents. Have people thought about it ?

GenerocUsername 3y ago
Not really true. You are asking that humans perceived red as blue, but I can imagine red things as blue. But if you did not perceive things as red, how would you know to relabel them as blue. The robot in this case would undergo the same operation when relabeling. It first has to perceive red, relabel to blue. No major difference unless you swap at hardware level which would be analogous to genetically engineering our eye cones to fire at altered wavelengths
esafak 3y ago
Robots can operate at the level of spectra (spectrophotometry) rather than color (projections of spectra, colorimetry). The mapping from the spectral power distribution to color co-ordinates for a given species is well understood and not arbitrary. The mapping from those co-ordinates (colors) to their names is also not arbitrary. The only issue I can think of that would cause confusion, which has nothing to do with AI, is metamerism, which is when different spectra are perceived to be the same color, because information gets lost when the infinite-dimensional spectrum is projected down to three dimensional color. In practice it is not a problem; most people are not even aware of the phenomenon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamerism_(color) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamerism_(color)
pixl97 3y ago
>It is almost impossible for a human to perceive color red as colour blue. Eh, you mean like humans seeing the color green as the color red? Not sure why red/blue matters at all in this case as stoplights are red/green, one of the highest risk of human failure color combinations! Furthermore direct color encoding of safety controls tends to be coupled with shape or placement. Stop signs are octagons. Stop lights have a directional component. If you're worried about an AI virus, I'd be far more worried about it just directly crashing the car, then induced confusion crashing the car.

GenerocUsername 3y ago

Not really true. You are asking that humans perceived red as blue, but I can imagine red things as blue. But if you did not perceive things as red, how would you know to relabel them as blue. The robot in this case would undergo the same operation when relabeling. It first has to perceive red, relabel to blue. No major difference unless you swap at hardware level which would be analogous to genetically engineering our eye cones to fire at altered wavelengths

esafak 3y ago

Robots can operate at the level of spectra (spectrophotometry) rather than color (projections of spectra, colorimetry). The mapping from the spectral power distribution to color co-ordinates for a given species is well understood and not arbitrary. The mapping from those co-ordinates (colors) to their names is also not arbitrary. The only issue I can think of that would cause confusion, which has nothing to do with AI, is metamerism, which is when different spectra are perceived to be the same color, because information gets lost when the infinite-dimensional spectrum is projected down to three dimensional color. In practice it is not a problem; most people are not even aware of the phenomenon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamerism_(color) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamerism_(color)

pixl97 3y ago

>It is almost impossible for a human to perceive color red as colour blue. Eh, you mean like humans seeing the color green as the color red? Not sure why red/blue matters at all in this case as stoplights are red/green, one of the highest risk of human failure color combinations! Furthermore direct color encoding of safety controls tends to be coupled with shape or placement. Stop signs are octagons. Stop lights have a directional component. If you're worried about an AI virus, I'd be far more worried about it just directly crashing the car, then induced confusion crashing the car.