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Strange that this has been greyed out? Not condoning the act of plagiarism but seems fairer to allow all parties to say their bits?

aerique 14y ago
It's because of people downvoting him.
lotharbot 14y ago
It's our way of voicing very clear disagreement. Anyone who wants to read his words still can.
- eli 14y ago
  You think otherwise he might not know people disagree? Voting really shouldn't be punitive to people with unpopular opinions.
  - lotharbot 14y ago
    I think otherwise he might not realize the breadth and depth at which this community disagrees with him. He is not merely expressing an unpopular opinion, he's demonstrated an inability to grasp certain basic concepts. Don't think of it as punitive; think of it as a wake-up call. Also, according to pg, it is and always has been perfectly fine to downvote people for disagreement: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=392347 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=392347 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658691 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658691
  - beedogs 14y ago
    Why shouldn't it? The only way to get rid of bad ideas is to shame them out of existence.
    - eli 14y ago
      Really? That's the only way?
    - devgutt 14y ago
      What is bad idea to you could not be a bad idea to me
      - lotharbot 14y ago
        Nobody is stopping you from upvoting his posts.
dkokelley 14y ago
I do wish this wasn't downvoted to grey. This is content I think most of us will find interesting and relevant to the discussion. I understand that HN allows downvotes of disagreement, even though in this case it buries the most relevant information.
- lobotryas 14y ago
  I vehemently disagree with Zee in this case, but I upvoted his posts because I believe his position deserves to be heard. This goes double for when the other person is mis-handling the fallout. I recommend putting half-baked defenses to the top so everyone can see the person's poor character.
- ktizo 14y ago
  Highlight it then and read it. Or change your browser colours.
  - dkokelley 14y ago
    It's not the text contrast that bothers me. It's that we're effectively trying to censor someone directly related to the article, if only for the fact that we believe him to be wrong. I would prefer that his comments are perceived as most relevant to the discussion at hand, and upvoted (or at least left alone) so that the comment can stand on its own. Zee's 'punishment' shouldn't come in the form of mass downvoting and censorship. His punishment should be publicity. Let the community see what he has to say and judge his actions, not his comments.
    - ktizo 14y ago
      How are his comments censored? I managed to read them perfectly fine. Censoring would be removal of a comment, not changing the font colour.
      - 3143 14y ago
        The whole point of voting is that higher-rated comments are brought to the top of the page, making them more visible. Most people don't read every comment.

aerique 14y ago

It's because of people downvoting him.

lotharbot 14y ago

It's our way of voicing very clear disagreement. Anyone who wants to read his words still can.

eli 14y ago
You think otherwise he might not know people disagree? Voting really shouldn't be punitive to people with unpopular opinions.
- lotharbot 14y ago
  I think otherwise he might not realize the breadth and depth at which this community disagrees with him. He is not merely expressing an unpopular opinion, he's demonstrated an inability to grasp certain basic concepts. Don't think of it as punitive; think of it as a wake-up call. Also, according to pg, it is and always has been perfectly fine to downvote people for disagreement: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=392347 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=392347 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658691 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658691
- beedogs 14y ago
  Why shouldn't it? The only way to get rid of bad ideas is to shame them out of existence.
  - eli 14y ago
    Really? That's the only way?
  - devgutt 14y ago
    What is bad idea to you could not be a bad idea to me
    - lotharbot 14y ago
      Nobody is stopping you from upvoting his posts.

dkokelley 14y ago

I do wish this wasn't downvoted to grey. This is content I think most of us will find interesting and relevant to the discussion. I understand that HN allows downvotes of disagreement, even though in this case it buries the most relevant information.

lobotryas 14y ago
I vehemently disagree with Zee in this case, but I upvoted his posts because I believe his position deserves to be heard. This goes double for when the other person is mis-handling the fallout. I recommend putting half-baked defenses to the top so everyone can see the person's poor character.
ktizo 14y ago
Highlight it then and read it. Or change your browser colours.
- dkokelley 14y ago
  It's not the text contrast that bothers me. It's that we're effectively trying to censor someone directly related to the article, if only for the fact that we believe him to be wrong. I would prefer that his comments are perceived as most relevant to the discussion at hand, and upvoted (or at least left alone) so that the comment can stand on its own. Zee's 'punishment' shouldn't come in the form of mass downvoting and censorship. His punishment should be publicity. Let the community see what he has to say and judge his actions, not his comments.
  - ktizo 14y ago
    How are his comments censored? I managed to read them perfectly fine. Censoring would be removal of a comment, not changing the font colour.
    - 3143 14y ago
      The whole point of voting is that higher-rated comments are brought to the top of the page, making them more visible. Most people don't read every comment.