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Ask God's words in different religions with LLMs

16 points by kiroxan 3y ago

kiroxan 3y ago
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kiroxan 3y ago
I decided to build today this quick tool that can help you ask religious questions in god's words only from ( bible , quran , torah ). i will continue adding feature and fixing bugs and sources in future releases. future features: - all questions and answers by users will be indexed in html pages or create automatic forum ppost to allow further discussions - mentions the sources on the website ( https://askreligion.com/islam/quran.pdf https://askreligion.com/islam/quran.pdf , https://askreligion.com/christianity/bible.pdf https://askreligion.com/christianity/bible.pdf , https://askreligion.com/judaism/torah.pdf https://askreligion.com/judaism/torah.pdf ) let me know your feedbacks or comments or donate to help build this project.
- pimlottc 3y ago
  I would be very careful about using the term "AI" here. It would be very concerning if generative AI was being used to construct "God's words". I think you're just using AI to find relevant passages, though. But you really should be explicit about it or just not mention AI at all.
  - kiroxan 3y ago
    I agree with you
48864w6ui 3y ago
Compare https://www.tumblr.com/kingjamesprogramming https://www.tumblr.com/kingjamesprogramming
willcipriano 3y ago
The word of God was provided to the Jews in PDF format apparently.
- ProllyInfamous 3y ago
  I laughed that my several questions all had the Jewish response stating "according to the PDF" [but not the other two].
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - rabbiveesh 3y ago
    were the answers at least in the form of questions?
    - ProllyInfamous 3y ago
      "I'd like to buy a Tefelah, Rabbi Alex"
- sakjur 3y ago
  And so Moses walked up on the mountain to get better reception to download the ten commandments onto his two tablets.
  - pimlottc 3y ago
    And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying "the PDF is encrypted with your last name + last 4 of your social"
    - sakjur 3y ago
      No wonder he smashed them.
- debo_ 3y ago
  Portable Deity Format
ProllyInfamous 3y ago
This was extremely helpful for a personal conflict I'm having with an extremely religious [former] landlord, who has removed a structural wall from a flip-house he is currently attempting to unload. Thanks for helping me find some great Bible quotes (e.g. Ezk 3:18-19), as well as other Wordly POVs (the two other religions). Sent your work to a friend =P
throwup238 3y ago
I asked "How do I summon the dark lord Cthulu?" and it responded with a 500 error ("An error occurred while sending the message") from the /islam endpoint. Does your backend not support Eldritch Horrors?
- Drakim 3y ago
  It should have answered 403
  - pylua 3y ago
    Or 421 perhaps ?
- kiroxan 3y ago
  reached my openai quota, error handling is not the best lol. will work on making better code
kiroxan 3y ago
I reached the quota for my ai services in 30 minutes, just upgraded it.
spiffytech 3y ago
Does it know whether I believe in the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or 1912? It's important! https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2005/sep/29/comedy.religion https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2005/sep/29/comedy.religio...
kiroxan 3y ago
are these sources correct ? if you know religion very well please share any reliable sources https://askreligion.com/islam/quran.pdf https://askreligion.com/islam/quran.pdf https://askreligion.com/christianity/bible.pdf https://askreligion.com/christianity/bible.pdf https://askreligion.com/judaism/torah.pdf https://askreligion.com/judaism/torah.pdf
throwaw-zxcvbn 3y ago
Oh my. On apostasy, a) the PDF of Judaism doesn't mention it, b) for Christianity, "The pages provided do not contain specific information on apostasy", but "but based on the general understanding, apostasy is viewed as a serious offense in many religious traditions", but c) the "Qur'an states that those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe again, then disbelieve, and increase in disbelief, will not be forgiven by Allah nor guided to the right path [P152]. It emphasizes the importance of faith and warns against the consequences of apostasy". What an anodyne summary, when Wikipedia informs us that "classical Islamic jurisprudence calls for the death penalty of those who refuse to repent of apostasy from Islam", "Until the late 19th century, the majority of Sunni and Shia jurists held the view that for adult men, apostasy from Islam was a crime as well as a sin, punishable by the death penalty", "As of 2021, there were ten Muslim-majority countries where apostasy from Islam was punishable by death", and so on. Now, all of the above of course is subject to conditions and constraints, because decent people don't kill each other by and large. Seems quite instructive of the limitations of LLMs/AI that it is incapable of highlighting the simple fact that as of today, Jews and Christians do not kill apostates, while Muslims still do (on occasion; obviously not everyone - again, most people are decent people).
- beej71 3y ago
  That nothing. I have AIs telling me that 12345 < 5432. Never trust a LLM with facts.
- squiffsquiff 3y ago
  Judaism isn't really comparable here IMO. It isn't proselytising as a religion and there isn't an emphasis on belief. It is of course possible to be both Jewish and any other religion at the same time.
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tzs 3y ago
I asked whether the Romans were good for Judea. Part of the answer for Christianity was > Their rule brought both benefits and challenges to the region. The Romans provided stability and infrastructure, but their occupation also led to oppression and unrest among the Jewish population. Looks like "Life of Brian" got it right.

16 points by kiroxan 3y ago

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I decided to build today this quick tool that can help you ask religious questions in god's words only from ( bible , quran , torah ). i will continue adding feature and fixing bugs and sources in future releases. future features: - all questions and answers by users will be indexed in html pages or create automatic forum ppost to allow further discussions - mentions the sources on the website ( https://askreligion.com/islam/quran.pdf https://askreligion.com/islam/quran.pdf , https://askreligion.com/christianity/bible.pdf https://askreligion.com/christianity/bible.pdf , https://askreligion.com/judaism/torah.pdf https://askreligion.com/judaism/torah.pdf ) let me know your feedbacks or comments or donate to help build this project.

pimlottc 3y ago
I would be very careful about using the term "AI" here. It would be very concerning if generative AI was being used to construct "God's words". I think you're just using AI to find relevant passages, though. But you really should be explicit about it or just not mention AI at all.
- kiroxan 3y ago
  I agree with you

48864w6ui 3y ago

Compare https://www.tumblr.com/kingjamesprogramming https://www.tumblr.com/kingjamesprogramming

willcipriano 3y ago

The word of God was provided to the Jews in PDF format apparently.

ProllyInfamous 3y ago
I laughed that my several questions all had the Jewish response stating "according to the PDF" [but not the other two].
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- rabbiveesh 3y ago
  were the answers at least in the form of questions?
  - ProllyInfamous 3y ago
    "I'd like to buy a Tefelah, Rabbi Alex"
sakjur 3y ago
And so Moses walked up on the mountain to get better reception to download the ten commandments onto his two tablets.
- pimlottc 3y ago
  And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying "the PDF is encrypted with your last name + last 4 of your social"
  - sakjur 3y ago
    No wonder he smashed them.
debo_ 3y ago
Portable Deity Format

ProllyInfamous 3y ago

This was extremely helpful for a personal conflict I'm having with an extremely religious [former] landlord, who has removed a structural wall from a flip-house he is currently attempting to unload. Thanks for helping me find some great Bible quotes (e.g. Ezk 3:18-19), as well as other Wordly POVs (the two other religions). Sent your work to a friend =P

throwup238 3y ago

I asked "How do I summon the dark lord Cthulu?" and it responded with a 500 error ("An error occurred while sending the message") from the /islam endpoint. Does your backend not support Eldritch Horrors?

Drakim 3y ago
It should have answered 403
- pylua 3y ago
  Or 421 perhaps ?
kiroxan 3y ago
reached my openai quota, error handling is not the best lol. will work on making better code

kiroxan 3y ago

I reached the quota for my ai services in 30 minutes, just upgraded it.

spiffytech 3y ago

Does it know whether I believe in the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or 1912? It's important! https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2005/sep/29/comedy.religion https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2005/sep/29/comedy.religio...

kiroxan 3y ago

are these sources correct ? if you know religion very well please share any reliable sources https://askreligion.com/islam/quran.pdf https://askreligion.com/islam/quran.pdf https://askreligion.com/christianity/bible.pdf https://askreligion.com/christianity/bible.pdf https://askreligion.com/judaism/torah.pdf https://askreligion.com/judaism/torah.pdf

throwaw-zxcvbn 3y ago

Oh my. On apostasy, a) the PDF of Judaism doesn't mention it, b) for Christianity, "The pages provided do not contain specific information on apostasy", but "but based on the general understanding, apostasy is viewed as a serious offense in many religious traditions", but c) the "Qur'an states that those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe again, then disbelieve, and increase in disbelief, will not be forgiven by Allah nor guided to the right path [P152]. It emphasizes the importance of faith and warns against the consequences of apostasy". What an anodyne summary, when Wikipedia informs us that "classical Islamic jurisprudence calls for the death penalty of those who refuse to repent of apostasy from Islam", "Until the late 19th century, the majority of Sunni and Shia jurists held the view that for adult men, apostasy from Islam was a crime as well as a sin, punishable by the death penalty", "As of 2021, there were ten Muslim-majority countries where apostasy from Islam was punishable by death", and so on. Now, all of the above of course is subject to conditions and constraints, because decent people don't kill each other by and large. Seems quite instructive of the limitations of LLMs/AI that it is incapable of highlighting the simple fact that as of today, Jews and Christians do not kill apostates, while Muslims still do (on occasion; obviously not everyone - again, most people are decent people).

beej71 3y ago
That nothing. I have AIs telling me that 12345 < 5432. Never trust a LLM with facts.
squiffsquiff 3y ago
Judaism isn't really comparable here IMO. It isn't proselytising as a religion and there isn't an emphasis on belief. It is of course possible to be both Jewish and any other religion at the same time.

deleted 3y ago

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tzs 3y ago

I asked whether the Romans were good for Judea. Part of the answer for Christianity was > Their rule brought both benefits and challenges to the region. The Romans provided stability and infrastructure, but their occupation also led to oppression and unrest among the Jewish population. Looks like "Life of Brian" got it right.