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I really hope Apple can find their way home again as the leading consumer hardware business they once were. It feels like they have been in a seemingly never e

I really hope Apple can find their way home again as the leading consumer hardware business they once were. It feels like they have been in a seemingly never ending spiral of trying to figure out how to make money off services, while abandoning enterprise growth, hardware category innovation, and releasing new revolutionary software experiences. I haven’t been wowed by anything from Apple since the ARM transition, but before then the iPhone X.

poisonborz 3y ago
Who is the leading consumer hardware business you think of if not Apple?
- testfrequency 3y ago
  Samsung and Sony come to mind. To be clear, I still view Apple as a leader, I just think they’ve lost focus and become lazy on their hardware innovation while they are draining all their resources on trying to be viewed as a serious services company. Personal opinion, but Apple trying to be a News, Medical, Sports, Financial, and Movie company all at the same time is a bit much and is proving to not be executed very well by them. I get why they want it since the profit margins are easier, but I just feel like it goes against the DNA of the company and what I’d expect out of them.
  - poisonborz 3y ago
    There isn't really a company, especially a hardware company with 1B+ users that doesn't do this. After this size you can't really expand to new users, only to new services to sell. You have that influx of profits and the existing user base you can funnel to. You can't just be a phone/tablet/pc company, there just isn't that much to that segment YoY.
    - testfrequency 3y ago
      All depends on the companies goals and priorities, right? Assuming Apple’s goal is to be the largest, richest, and most diversified company in the world - then sure, keep chasing honey pots. Maybe they can drill for oil, try to become an ad agency, and get their own bank charter next. I’m obviously being cynical now, I just really don’t like (and think it’s gross) the direction Apple is going in now. It’s all shareholder and board appeasement, meanwhile employee retention and convictions are at the lowest I’ve seen from them. They just keep launching subpar devices and services hoping consumers will just follow them along for the ride, without actually offering any innovation in return.
mcphage 3y ago
> I really hope Apple can find their way home again as the leading consumer hardware business they once were. [...] I haven’t been wowed by anything from Apple since the ARM transition, but before then the iPhone X. That was in ... 2020. > It feels like they have been in a seemingly never ending spiral of trying to figure out how to make money off services, while abandoning enterprise growth, hardware category innovation, and releasing new revolutionary software experiences. Well, I guess 3 1/2 years?

poisonborz 3y ago

Who is the leading consumer hardware business you think of if not Apple?

testfrequency 3y ago
Samsung and Sony come to mind. To be clear, I still view Apple as a leader, I just think they’ve lost focus and become lazy on their hardware innovation while they are draining all their resources on trying to be viewed as a serious services company. Personal opinion, but Apple trying to be a News, Medical, Sports, Financial, and Movie company all at the same time is a bit much and is proving to not be executed very well by them. I get why they want it since the profit margins are easier, but I just feel like it goes against the DNA of the company and what I’d expect out of them.
- poisonborz 3y ago
  There isn't really a company, especially a hardware company with 1B+ users that doesn't do this. After this size you can't really expand to new users, only to new services to sell. You have that influx of profits and the existing user base you can funnel to. You can't just be a phone/tablet/pc company, there just isn't that much to that segment YoY.
  - testfrequency 3y ago
    All depends on the companies goals and priorities, right? Assuming Apple’s goal is to be the largest, richest, and most diversified company in the world - then sure, keep chasing honey pots. Maybe they can drill for oil, try to become an ad agency, and get their own bank charter next. I’m obviously being cynical now, I just really don’t like (and think it’s gross) the direction Apple is going in now. It’s all shareholder and board appeasement, meanwhile employee retention and convictions are at the lowest I’ve seen from them. They just keep launching subpar devices and services hoping consumers will just follow them along for the ride, without actually offering any innovation in return.

mcphage 3y ago

> I really hope Apple can find their way home again as the leading consumer hardware business they once were. [...] I haven’t been wowed by anything from Apple since the ARM transition, but before then the iPhone X. That was in ... 2020. > It feels like they have been in a seemingly never ending spiral of trying to figure out how to make money off services, while abandoning enterprise growth, hardware category innovation, and releasing new revolutionary software experiences. Well, I guess 3 1/2 years?