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Maybe I’m just too old, but I will never understand the brief viral Stanley popularity, or the viral inaccessible-lead-pellet alarmism.

nytesky 3y ago
A lot of my friends dads worked in coal power plants (they would be the guys climbing the stack for inspection and cleaning. They all used Stanley mugs, usually the dark green one with a little detachable cup. Such an uncanny valley for Stanley to suddenly the be the IT mom and influencer accessory, but it’s a well trodden path from work site to boutique (I think Carhartt, Suburban SUVs, many others I am sure). Watching SNL, I have to ask: are they not leak proof? https://youtu.be/L2tUO2mp99Q?si=zVjGlxi-rcrMW2JC https://youtu.be/L2tUO2mp99Q?si=zVjGlxi-rcrMW2JC We always just use Nalgene since you can’t lose the cap and they generally don’t leak but of course accept room temp water.
dylan604 3y ago
> I will never understand the brief viral Stanley popularity, it isn't the product, but the effect of viral. the effect of influencers is the thing to be looking at here. however, that's just the next evolution of marketing. to me, it is the ability to be influenced that should be studied and improved.
- HankB99 3y ago
  > it is the ability to be influenced that should be studied and improved. I'm curious about what you mean by "improved?"
  - dylan604 3y ago
    awkwardly worded to be sure after rereading if not just an incomplete thought. i would hope that we could improve our abilities to be less susceptible to the influence after studying. some of us seem to be impervious since we don't spend any time on the socials where these influencers live. others seemingly can't tell there's an influence at all. while others yet seem like they couldn't figure out how to feed themself if an influencer didn't first suggest it
    - rationaliser 3y ago
      Why would it be good to be less susceptible to influence? If I have a misunderstanding about something, or fail to appreciate its merits, would I not want to be “influenced”? Is it only bad when you feel cool saying that you, homo rationalis, disregarded it?
      - dylan604 3y ago
        Because if it's an influencer, it's usually a crap product someone has paid as a marketing expense for someone to promote to generate sells. There's a huge difference between a sales pitch and an influencer peddling wares. If you can't understand this basic principle, then there's no room left to have a sane conversation
        fragmede 3y ago
        the basic principle hinges on your "usually" though. Influencers need to pay the bills, so if the product is crap, they might still endorse it, but they might also not. So it depends on how cynical you personally are. Because if it's a crap product, then the influencer's influence will go down after people buy the product and realize it's crap. then they won't trust that influencer anymore. so it's in the influencer's best interests to not peddle crap. sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
        dylan604 3y ago
        For every influencer that misses on a product and loses out, there's a line around the corner of people willing to be the next. They are like cockroaches. For the record, I'm extremely cynical if that wasn't apparent. I've never bought anything from late night infomercials, and I see influencers below them on the scale of respectability. There are oh so many tales of the influencer that just wanted the checks even though they knew nothing of the product being peddled. Are they all that way? Maybe not, but it's not anything that I will ever be convinced is a net positive for society.
ianburrell 3y ago
Stanley invented, or at least popularized, a new kind of tumbler. It is insulated to keep drinks hot or cold, it has large capacity but fits in cup holder, has handle to make easier to carry. I don't like since prefer smaller water bottles, but I understand why some people would. I also don't get the viral popularity, but I understand why social promotion of something people want and is new can take off. It is turned into phenomenon that people want just cause its popular.
luplex 3y ago
Stanley hired the guy that made Crocs cool before, so he knows what he is doing.

nytesky 3y ago

A lot of my friends dads worked in coal power plants (they would be the guys climbing the stack for inspection and cleaning. They all used Stanley mugs, usually the dark green one with a little detachable cup. Such an uncanny valley for Stanley to suddenly the be the IT mom and influencer accessory, but it’s a well trodden path from work site to boutique (I think Carhartt, Suburban SUVs, many others I am sure). Watching SNL, I have to ask: are they not leak proof? https://youtu.be/L2tUO2mp99Q?si=zVjGlxi-rcrMW2JC https://youtu.be/L2tUO2mp99Q?si=zVjGlxi-rcrMW2JC We always just use Nalgene since you can’t lose the cap and they generally don’t leak but of course accept room temp water.

dylan604 3y ago

> I will never understand the brief viral Stanley popularity, it isn't the product, but the effect of viral. the effect of influencers is the thing to be looking at here. however, that's just the next evolution of marketing. to me, it is the ability to be influenced that should be studied and improved.

HankB99 3y ago
> it is the ability to be influenced that should be studied and improved. I'm curious about what you mean by "improved?"
- dylan604 3y ago
  awkwardly worded to be sure after rereading if not just an incomplete thought. i would hope that we could improve our abilities to be less susceptible to the influence after studying. some of us seem to be impervious since we don't spend any time on the socials where these influencers live. others seemingly can't tell there's an influence at all. while others yet seem like they couldn't figure out how to feed themself if an influencer didn't first suggest it
  - rationaliser 3y ago
    Why would it be good to be less susceptible to influence? If I have a misunderstanding about something, or fail to appreciate its merits, would I not want to be “influenced”? Is it only bad when you feel cool saying that you, homo rationalis, disregarded it?
    - dylan604 3y ago
      Because if it's an influencer, it's usually a crap product someone has paid as a marketing expense for someone to promote to generate sells. There's a huge difference between a sales pitch and an influencer peddling wares. If you can't understand this basic principle, then there's no room left to have a sane conversation
      - fragmede 3y ago
        the basic principle hinges on your "usually" though. Influencers need to pay the bills, so if the product is crap, they might still endorse it, but they might also not. So it depends on how cynical you personally are. Because if it's a crap product, then the influencer's influence will go down after people buy the product and realize it's crap. then they won't trust that influencer anymore. so it's in the influencer's best interests to not peddle crap. sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
        dylan604 3y ago
        For every influencer that misses on a product and loses out, there's a line around the corner of people willing to be the next. They are like cockroaches. For the record, I'm extremely cynical if that wasn't apparent. I've never bought anything from late night infomercials, and I see influencers below them on the scale of respectability. There are oh so many tales of the influencer that just wanted the checks even though they knew nothing of the product being peddled. Are they all that way? Maybe not, but it's not anything that I will ever be convinced is a net positive for society.

ianburrell 3y ago

Stanley invented, or at least popularized, a new kind of tumbler. It is insulated to keep drinks hot or cold, it has large capacity but fits in cup holder, has handle to make easier to carry. I don't like since prefer smaller water bottles, but I understand why some people would. I also don't get the viral popularity, but I understand why social promotion of something people want and is new can take off. It is turned into phenomenon that people want just cause its popular.

luplex 3y ago

Stanley hired the guy that made Crocs cool before, so he knows what he is doing.